Nations Cup 2020 Update

[oozkan]

Hope there will be no draft so strategies can actually be prepared

And no sling until Imperial Age please.

 

[Marauder]

I made a google doc with all the 2017 team lists somewhat formatted. It's a bit easier to read than the old aoczone post

NC 2017 Teams - Google Drive

docs.google.com

 

[Poxo]

I made a google doc with all the 2017 team lists somewhat formatted. It's a bit easier to read than the old aoczone post

NC 2017 Teams - Google Drive

docs.google.com

Now please do the same with previous versions

 

[Toom03]

I made a google doc with all the 2017 team lists somewhat formatted. It's a bit easier to read than the old aoczone post

NC 2017 Teams - Google Drive

docs.google.com

i can see my name Pog :D

 

[SalzZ_WaRRioR]

Nations cup will be on DE?

 

[Rey_Fer]

Nations cup will be on DE?

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it has been already said that it would be on voobly to involve a higher part of the community

 

[TriRem]

Also, no hosting large tournament on a game without 10% of the necessary features for proper organization, admin and streaming.

 

[MembTV]

Also, no hosting large tournament on a game without 10% of the necessary features for proper organization, admin and streaming.

10%??? U mean 90%

Nations cup will have new de features and civilizations??? Like potentially new balance patch if that happens during this months???

 

[ThePr0phet]

If microsoft allows De civs on voobly etc then they should stop develop their games. Either they fix it on their servers and their platform or just dont put out MP games at all. the only reason for DE is to unify the playerbase, if they start at the first hickup to immediately let the diversion start again GG... you wont ever get casuals or a lot of others to install voobly to have better Quality of MP. The goal should be to fix MP and the game on OFFICIAL servers and the game. My probably not popular opinion.

 

[VG_paladin]

：拍：

 

[TriRem]

If microsoft allows De civs on voobly etc then they should stop develop their games.

I would like to point out that all versions of WK exist independently of what MS wants.

There is nothing for MS to allow here. WK exists and works in accordance with what other precedents consider acceptable in modding and doesn't break any copyright law.

Even if MS wanted (and there is no indication that they do btw), they would have no legal ground to prevent WK from existing. It's a deliberate choice in WK development to stay clear of any copyright violation and we keep updating it to not leave any place for doubt there.

 

[Scogo_]

I would like to point out that all versions of WK exist independently of what MS wants.

There is nothing for MS to allow here. WK exists and works in accordance with what other precedents consider acceptable in modding and doesn't break any copyright law.

Even if MS wanted (and there is no indication that they do btw), they would have no legal ground to prevent from existing. It's a deliberate choice in WK development to stay clear of any copyright violation and we keep updating it to not leave any place for doubt there.

is a WK update with the new civs in the works?

 

[TriRem]

is a WK update with the new civs in the works?

We are finishing an update for WK that will include several of the QoL features you can find on DE, as well as DE balance. However supporting DE and the new civs is quite a challenge because is quite different from HD/UP in many ways. So support for DE Is not coming for a while.

 

[MembTV]

If microsoft allows De civs on voobly etc then they should stop develop their games. Either they fix it on their servers and their platform or just dont put out MP games at all. the only reason for DE is to unify the playerbase, if they start at the first hickup to immediately let the diversion start again GG... you wont ever get casuals or a lot of others to install voobly to have better Quality of MP. The goal should be to fix MP and the game on OFFICIAL servers and the game. My probably not popular opinion.

If the goal is unify the community seems that they are failing a little

 

[Bowserlord]

tournements on voobly wont have any viewers or pricemoney.

 

[Forever]

tournements on voobly wont have any viewers or pricemoney.

The best tournaments with the best prizes and more viewers have been played in Voobly.

 

[DracKeN]

tournements on voobly wont have any viewers or pricemoney.

The moment WK adds DE features, all top players will move back to Voobly (unless DE completely redo the matchmaking). Not including cumans and steppe lancers is a great addition too.

 

[MembTV]

tournements on voobly wont have any viewers or pricemoney.

We will see that

 

[ChriSt]

Quite enjoying the lag free games on DE. The gameplay features (being able to re-target vills etc).

I guess we will see..

 

[eC_Gurke]

Quite enjoying the lag free games on DE. The gameplay features (being able to re-target vills etc).

I guess we will see..

Thats true. No more "please, mother of god, no Aussie opponent(s) next round" and just wanting to altf4 an otherwise enjoyable tournament would be great.

 

[Marteens]

Quite enjoying the lag free games on DE. The gameplay features (being able to re-target vills etc).

I guess we will see..

and 4vs4 with New Zealand players

 

[ChriSt]

I was referencing the real 500+ ping lag we aussies get with South American countries, but yes now certain european countries cant blame the 350 green ping for their lack of micro and tournament preparation.

 

[ThePr0phet]

If the goal is unify the community seems that they are failing a little

In how many days did voobly "unify" the community? I guess more than 2 months. And it wont ever really unify it. Because it is missing something, it isnt the original game means you need 3rd party programms. No casual will install voobly so he/she can play CBA etc. However everybody needs the original game being able to play on voobly so why not making the original one the best one so we have casuals, BF pros, CBA players, and pro players on one bif platform?

 

[ThePr0phet]

I would like to point out that all versions of WK exist independently of what MS wants.

There is nothing for MS to allow here. WK exists and works in accordance with what other precedents consider acceptable in modding and doesn't break any copyright law.

Even if MS wanted (and there is no indication that they do btw), they would have no legal ground to prevent WK from existing. It's a deliberate choice in WK development to stay clear of any copyright violation and we keep updating it to not leave any place for doubt there.

I am actually really curious about that even though i am pretty sure if they really would like they could. because if you wouldnt use any of their things why do i need the original game. you take all the animations etc of them. thats not modding thats just stealing work from a company. In my opinion it just exists because MS just doenst really care about it. However I doubt they will allow prize money from them being played on voobly going forward.

I love your work dont get me wrong. But I have my doubts that if they would go hard on you, that you wouldnt be charged / your project not taken down

 

[TriRem]

I am actually really curious about that even though i am pretty sure if they really would like they could. because if you wouldnt use any of their things why do i need the original game. you take all the animations etc of them. thats not modding thats just stealing work from a company. In my opinion it just exists because MS just doenst really care about it.

WK does use HD assets obviously, from graphics, data file, string files, maps and so on.

But these are not stolen or anything. They are just moved around/modified in situ to fit the UserPatch format. A user is allowed to modify his own files with whatever program he desires. There would be no modding otherwise. Well that's the exact same thing with WK. Only one's own HD files are edited, if one is missing a file on his HD installation, it will be missing on WK too.

Distribution of copyrighted material is frowned upon. That's why WK doesn't do any. Modifying one's own files is perfectly acceptable, and that's why it's the road we chose to go with.