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kw1k000000 said:
Tournament feels too big and too long for the prize pool. Even 10k (currently 1k) wouldn't seem enough. I know we would be lucky to have 32 teams forget 128 but how many quality teams is the question.
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11 ???? It's shocking how little you know AoE community, seeing that you are all the time commenting random crap on aoezone!
 
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Brazilmiguelzin

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Who feels the money is not worth it just dont sign up lul. The first and second SY Nations Cup are the two tournaments i had more fun playing, mostly coz of wrath 11
 
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a tournement where u force people to play with guys they never play? Really wired, really uncompetitive.
 
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oozkan

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Format seems interesting, now only one thing is needed to be cleared up, is Viper playing for Germany?
 
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NC is the best AoE tournament ever. All top players have played it. Glad to hear this news.
 
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SauroPod

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It's sad have no way to see best korean squad
grunt +kkab+ koven. :cry:
 
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Huehuecoyotl22

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__Globalism__ said:
It's sad have no way to see best korean squad
grunt +kkab+ koven. :cry:
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Probably not impossible, as Grunt played 2 months ago, Koven 2 years ago and kkab could surely get in shape fast, but maybe someone would need to pay them for training and playing in the cup.
 
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  • #33
__Globalism__ said:
It's sad have no way to see best korean squad
grunt +kkab+ koven. :cry:
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Either best Spanish squad with Tatoh, Ruso, Laan, Ralber, bbk, Blade, Rukie, Timer...
 
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I would love to see Portugal team with Bvirus, Tobi and Greed.
 
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NC seems like a great event, but at least imo it doesn't excite me as much as a viewer. Obviously for the players it is very cool, but as a viewer I miss the competitive aspect of the best teams in the world, having practiced for years together, fighting for the crown.

NC seems to be more about the novelty factor of "randomly allocating players" with the "curious and interesting" factor of strong and weaker players having to team up (obv there are very strong teams as well).

I am also not sure how much the classic division by borders fits when it comes to a tournament in an online worldwide video game.

But I digress, I don't mean to be a killjoy, I am sure it will be fun anyway. I just wish there was another BoA or so as well.
 
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iViktorius

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NC is foremost for the players, all of them, not for the viewers
 
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If anyone wishes to sponsor a prizepool for a large regular team game event or any other type of tournament I'm open to doing that later in the year.

Until then everyone can **** right off with what I do with my time & money.
 
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BruneiSyphax

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No need to be rude. Viewer feedback can be important, before and after an event. Maybe not for this event, but clearly in other cases. If eg Escape had taken that into account, maybe it wouldn't have to close down.
 
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Tarsiz

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  • Sep 23, 2019
  • #39
The recent poll and the reception of this one post shows the viewers are overwhelmingly hyped by the promise of a Nations Cup.

Sure, as one individual viewer you are just as entitled as anyone else to share your opinion but you are clearly in the wrong.
 
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  • Sep 23, 2019
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Syphax said:
No need to be rude. Viewer feedback can be important, before and after an event. Maybe not for this event, but clearly in other cases. If eg Escape had taken that into account, maybe it wouldn't have to close down.
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What have viewers got do with this?
If you have player feedback, I'm sure robo will consider it.
 
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BruneiSyphax

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Tarsiz said:
The recent poll and the reception of this one post shows the viewers are overwhelmingly hyped by the promise of a Nations Cup.

Sure, as one individual viewer you are just as entitled as anyone else to share your opinion but you are clearly in the wrong.
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I never said I'm objectively right or anything. Nobody needs to consider anyone's opinion, I just don't see the need for being rude.
 
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Syphax said:
NC seems like a great event, but at least imo it doesn't excite me as much as a viewer. Obviously for the players it is very cool, but as a viewer I miss the competitive aspect of the best teams in the world, having practiced for years together, fighting for the crown.

NC seems to be more about the novelty factor of "randomly allocating players" with the "curious and interesting" factor of strong and weaker players having to team up (obv there are very strong teams as well).

I am also not sure how much the classic division by borders fits when it comes to a tournament in an online worldwide video game.

But I digress, I don't mean to be a killjoy, I am sure it will be fun anyway. I just wish there was another BoA or so as well.
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For me is the contrary. I am tired of watching the same 8 teams again and again playing each other.
 
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Huehuecoyotl22

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  • #43
Forever said:
For me is the contrary. I am tired of watching the same 8 teams again and again playing each other.
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Also, it often is more fun to see motivated teams with good team play and unconventional strategies.

Some 5 years ago it was fun watching some teams, even if it were Colombia C or Belgium E or Cocoa Joe's Naked Camels. It might be harder for some casters, but I believe we have some great casters who can make every match interesting if they are motivated.

I have no doubt that we will see Secret an aM again in some tournament in 2020. But I assume even they have fun playing in different teams from time to time.
 
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NachoAoE

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  • Sep 23, 2019
  • #44
Syphax said:
NC seems like a great event, but at least imo it doesn't excite me as much as a viewer. Obviously for the players it is very cool, but as a viewer I miss the competitive aspect of the best teams in the world, having practiced for years together, fighting for the crown.

NC seems to be more about the novelty factor of "randomly allocating players" with the "curious and interesting" factor of strong and weaker players having to team up (obv there are very strong teams as well).

I am also not sure how much the classic division by borders fits when it comes to a tournament in an online worldwide video game.

But I digress, I don't mean to be a killjoy, I am sure it will be fun anyway. I just wish there was another BoA or so as well.
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You're definitely a very specific viewer. In my experience 3+ years casting AoC, when there's a national feeling arround the games, more people watch. It shows clearly when Tatoh is playing more spaniards watch, when nicov is playing more argentinians watch, etc.
And having feedback of hundreds of viewers, many said they get tired of watching always the same old 3-4 teams competing for the Top, and would like to know when something new is coming up.
Also, the most watched VOD on YT of all AoC-tournament history is a World Cup Final, so there's that as well!
 
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  • Sep 23, 2019
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Nc is also an event in which you can see many new upcoming talents, sometimes players who already play on decent level for a long time but as casual player you have never heared off because they arent invited to invitational tournaments, they dont get into them because of a top 32/16 cutoff, or they simply arent as active when it comes to the smaller regular tournaments.

Also i think nc can be an oportunity for new (permanent) teams to form, and eventhough the teams might constist of players with mixed skill level I think being able to communicate in native languagr and a tournament with a clear format and interesting mappool would promote training and likely results in good games!

I'm hyped for this!

PS. About the DE/voobly discussion. Altough i think it brings a lot of hype to play on DE (and possibly a lot of new people to the community), I fear that the overpowered state which the new civs are in upon launch would not benefit a tournament: either we see those civs picked in each game, or banned for each game.
 
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LatviaklavskisLV

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  • Sep 23, 2019
  • #46
Syphax said:
NC seems like a great event, but at least imo it doesn't excite me as much as a viewer. Obviously for the players it is very cool, but as a viewer I miss the competitive aspect of the best teams in the world, having practiced for years together, fighting for the crown.

NC seems to be more about the novelty factor of "randomly allocating players" with the "curious and interesting" factor of strong and weaker players having to team up (obv there are very strong teams as well).

I am also not sure how much the classic division by borders fits when it comes to a tournament in an online worldwide video game.

But I digress, I don't mean to be a killjoy, I am sure it will be fun anyway. I just wish there was another BoA or so as well.
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I have an argument for you:
I casted most of last NC, i saw all the high level games and such and trust me, the competitive aspect was there, it was insane to watch some of those games, you still have **** ton of high level teams playing for first place, trust me, the level is for sure there, yeah it won't be secret vs aM but it will be brazil vs finland and so on, what more can you ask for ..
 
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Memeluke

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Hope there will be no draft so strategies can actually be prepared
 
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Marteens

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Henkdesupernerd said:
Nc is also an event in which you can see many new upcoming talents, sometimes players who already play on decent level for a long time but as casual player you have never heared off because they arent invited to invitational tournaments, they dont get into them because of a top 32/16 cutoff, or they simply arent as active when it comes to the smaller regular tournaments.

Also i think nc can be an oportunity for new (permanent) teams to form, and eventhough the teams might constist of players with mixed skill level I think being able to communicate in native languagr and a tournament with a clear format and interesting mappool would promote training and likely results in good games!

I'm hyped for this!

PS. About the DE/voobly discussion. Altough i think it brings a lot of hype to play on DE (and possibly a lot of new people to the community), I fear that the overpowered state which the new civs are in upon launch would not benefit a tournament: either we see those civs picked in each game, or banned for each game.
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Totally agree regarding the Civs in DE
 
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Henkdesupernerd said:
I fear that the overpowered state which the new civs are in upon launch would not benefit a tournament: either we see those civs picked in each game, or banned for each game.
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I think if NC is played on DE, the new Civs could be perma-banned for the whole Tournament by the Organizers.
For example for NAC Koreans were perma-banned aswell.

Think that would make evrything easier then always banning them (if there is a draft), or playing on voobly instead because of them.
 
SauroPod

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Huehuecoyotl22 said:
Probably not impossible, as Grunt played 2 months ago, Koven 2 years ago and kkab could surely get in shape fast, but maybe someone would need to pay them for training and playing in the cup.
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Probably that could be good news but they didn't made any team since 2014 NC~ .
Imo, team cooperation and practice together is more important factor than name value.
 
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