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Collection Cup $2400 Hosted by Locoser

  • Thread starter ArgentinaLord_patito
  • Start date Jun 7, 2021
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The Argentinian caster Locoser (youtube.com/c/locoser) presents his first big tournament

24 Players directly invited by privated will be participating in the event, which will happen from the 15th June to the 11th July. Sorted by max historical Elo, the highest 8 will qualify directly to the main event while the remaining 16 will have to play 1 series to qualify into it. All series will be casted live while possible.

All rounds are direct elimination, and Bo5, except for the finals, which are Bo7. All maps in the mappool are standard AOEII DE maps. There is no Mappack.
The Tournament is open casting. PoV allowed


Handbook - Handbook (spanish) - Discord Locoser - Brackets

Players:

ACCM
AngelinaJolie
Bact
Barles
Bruh
Capoch
Daut
Dogao
Hera
Jordan
LaaaaaN
Liereyy
MbL
Mr_Yo
Nicov
Nili
PROject_Belgium
Sobek
Tatoh
TheMax
TheViper
Villese
Vinchester
Vivi

List of official casters in different languagues (The event is Open Casting. The casters listed here are just casted that confirmed the will be covering the event) :

Spanish:
Locoser (Tournament's host) - Youtube
NachoAoE - Youtube
Themanko - Youtube
JuanPerotti - Youtube
MaswiTV - Twitch
Pinch3terneira - Twitch
Fede Core - Youtube

English:
MembTV - Twitch
Ornlu - Twitch
Lidakor - Twich
Nova - Twitch

French:
TheSniper - Twitch

Portuguese
ObatheGreatt - Twitch

Italian:
Italian Lawyer - Twitch

Russian:
Wanderbraun - Twitch

German:
FlylikeDjango - Twitch

Cantonese:
Marcus - Youtube

Mandarin:
Altough not directly spoken to them, I know Lyx and Paladin will be covering at least some of the event in Douyu

More casters might be added in these or others languages. If you're planning on covering the event and you're interested in appearing as an official caster , pm in aoezone or discord
 
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nimanoe
  • Netherlandsnimanoe

  • Jun 7, 2021
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Looks great! I couldn't find it, but will these be casted live or as recorded games? And will there be a mappack or will the default DE maps be used?

The nomad rules say you're not allowed to attack before the tc is up, but everything else is allowed? So walling in villagers would be fine?

And the homemap rules say that the player that's losing the series can pick a homemap, but what if it's a tie? I think changing it to the loser of the previous map makes more sense. There's also no rules for the homemaps for the bo7 in the Grand Finals.

Edit: And the command for the event is also missing
 
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Huehuecoyotl22
  • DenmarkHuehuecoyotl22

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #3
Congratulations to Locoser and I am looking forward to seeing who the 9 unrevealed players are.

There is just one thing I feel a bit different about: I would have wished that he had chosen to make it more unique, that it is an event which has some signature settings which then are "his" event's. E. g. we have Nacho's King of America series, OGN's tournaments with maps we see almost nowhere else that make them unique. RBW and Hidden Cup with always some new maps and uncopied settings. Two Pools with different civ draft...
Now it's just the standard Arabia+home maps, civ drafts and maps. Ellie's Charity Invitational 2 just happened. It had a group stage instead of a Ro16+Ro8, but 7 maps are the same, and no map which we did not see many times recently.
 
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Lord_patito
  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #4
nimanoe said:
Looks great! I couldn't find it, but will these be casted live or as recorded games? And will there be a mappack or will the default DE maps be used?

The nomad rules say you're not allowed to attack before the tc is up, but everything else is allowed? So walling in villagers would be fine?

And the homemap rules say that the player that's losing the series can pick a homemap, but what if it's a tie? I think changing it to the loser of the previous map makes more sense. There's also no rules for the homemaps for the bo7 in the Grand Finals.
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Thanks for the feedback. We want to cast all games as live, whenever is possible, altough we're well aware of RBW taking place during the same time than qualifiers.

Maps are detailed in the handbook. There are all standar AOEII DE maps. No mappack.

Rules about the homemap drafting and the nomad are in process of being clarified.

All in all, the handbook is not 100% finished yet.

Thanks for all your support and help, always!
 
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Carlini8
  • UnknownCarlini8

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #5
Hello everyone.

I am Carlini8 and I have two passions in life, trushing and NFTs. Unless you are my wife and reading this, then in that case family comes first, yes yes, family over towers honey, yes yes.

I am a little worried on two fronts. There is already an Opensea collection but no owners. Please don't make these on Opensea, Opensea NFTs are quite literally the worst, easiest, but they are the worst mintable NFTs right now.

Secondly, it kinda looks like you might just be copying the assets that already exist? I assume you know you can't do this and selling Microsoft IP is a huge no no?
 
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The_italian_lawyer
  • ItalyThe_italian_lawyer

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #6
Hyped!
 
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  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #7
Huehuecoyotl22 said:
Congratulations to Locoser and I am looking forward to seeing who the 9 unrevealed players are.

There is just one thing I feel a bit different about: I would have wished that he had chosen to make it more unique, that it is an event which has some signature settings which then are "his" event's. E. g. we have Nacho's King of America series, OGN's tournaments with maps we see almost nowhere else that make them unique. RBW and Hidden Cup with always some new maps and uncopied settings. Two Pools with different civ draft...
Now it's just the standard Arabia+home maps, civ drafts and maps. Ellie's Charity Invitational 2 just happened. It had a group stage instead of a Ro16+Ro8, but 7 maps are the same, and no map which we did not see many times recently.
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Thanks man! While I agree with your point, Locoser is a guy who really enjoy really direct simple tournaments without further "spices". I guess that there not a really big thing that separate this tournament from others, but again, I also believe is refreshing to have pro players facing each other in everyday settings
 
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Lord_patito
  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #8
Carlini8 said:
Hello everyone.

I am Carlini8 and I have two passions in life, trushing and NFTs. Unless you are my wife and reading this, then in that case family comes first, yes yes, family over towers honey, yes yes.

I am a little worried on two fronts. There is already an Opensea collection but no owners. Please don't make these on Opensea, Opensea NFTs are quite literally the worst, easiest, but they are the worst mintable NFTs right now.

Secondly, it kinda looks like you might just be copying the assets that already exist? I assume you know you can't do this and selling Microsoft IP is a huge no no?
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I understand your concern. Tbh i'm not in direct contact with the sponsor, but I will transfer your questions to them, since they seems really relevant
 
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  • UnknownCarlini8

  • Jun 7, 2021
  • #9
Lord_patito said:
I understand your concern. Tbh i'm not in direct contact with the sponsor, but I will transfer your questions to them, since they seems really relevant
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Thanks!
 
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Hermes_Arg
  • ArgentinaHermes_Arg

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #10
I'm so ****ing glad about this. Congrats loco, from the deep of my heart :smile: best wishes!
 
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Lord_patito
  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #11
Carlini8 said:
Hello everyone.

I am Carlini8 and I have two passions in life, trushing and NFTs. Unless you are my wife and reading this, then in that case family comes first, yes yes, family over towers honey, yes yes.

I am a little worried on two fronts. There is already an Opensea collection but no owners. Please don't make these on Opensea, Opensea NFTs are quite literally the worst, easiest, but they are the worst mintable NFTs right now.

Secondly, it kinda looks like you might just be copying the assets that already exist? I assume you know you can't do this and selling Microsoft IP is a huge no no?
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You can see the product here https://opensea.io/collection/age-cards/
As long as I understand, there is no violation to Microsoft IP(I believe Robo alredy verified that)

In addition, cards looks pretty nice TBH
 
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  • ParaguayDerlisGM

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #12
Great tournament Locoser! I hope Elli4k cast the tournamet too! :D
 
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  • Australiarobo

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #13
Lord_patito said:
As long as I understand, there is no violation to Microsoft IP(I believe Robo alredy verified that)
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I have not, but I would hope that this company has already spoken to MS legal and is above board.
 
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Lord_patito
  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #14
robo said:
I have not, but I would hope that this company has already spoken to MS legal and is above board.
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I thought you had. sorry about the missunderstanding. Anyway, the sponsor will provide us a official reply tomorrow, which I'll gladly share with everyone
 
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  • ArgentinaCera Del Oído

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #15
Voy a escribir en castellano porque el Locoser es argentino como el choripán con mayonesa.
Aguante Loquito, muchas felicitaciones por el torneo! Sarpado evento te mandaste con jugadores de primerísimo nivel. A fin de año vamos a hacer el balance del mejor jugador del año en base a si ganó o no la Collection cup, entre otros torneos.
Un abrazo grandísimo Loquito <3, acá vamos a estar apoyandote como vos al vodka con speed <3
 
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Rey_Fer
  • SpainRey_Fer

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #16
what is NFT?
 
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  • AustraliaBeanslinger

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #17
Rey_Fer said:
what is NFT?
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Literally nothing, its just something for rich people to throw away their money on
 
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dodageka
  • Germanydodageka

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #18
Beanslinger said:
Literally nothing, its just something for rich people to throw away their money on
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Carlini8 reply incoming in 3...2...1...
 
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Tiger__Moth
  • United KingdomTiger__Moth

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #19
robo said:
I have not, but I would hope that this company has already spoken to MS legal and is above board.
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Robo, I have never met you but am glad you are back here :-)
 
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angelina_jolie
  • Netherlandsangelina_jolie

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #20
Rey_Fer said:
what is NFT?
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Its like a digital token that has something attached to it ( a picture, music, small video) or something you can exchange it for.
Because these digital tokens are on a blockchain (read about this) you can always see who the owner is. So the authenticiy is kept.
You can see these collections as pokemon cards but digital. Like some special cards in the early days are alot of worth. Some tokens now are only a few made. Thats why it can go up in value over time.

On the internet you can just copy paste some picture but never be the real owner. On the blockchain you can be. You can still copy /paste but never be the real owner except you purchase it. That's why rich people try to buy digital art (by Beeple, look him up) for millions of dollars, cause only few are made.
You can reprint the Mona Lisa or paint it just alike, but its never the real deal. Only if you got the real one.

Hope i explained it and make some sense 111
 
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Carlini8
  • UnknownCarlini8

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #21
Lord_patito said:
You can see the product here https://opensea.io/collection/age-cards/
As long as I understand, there is no violation to Microsoft IP(I believe Robo alredy verified that)

In addition, cards looks pretty nice TBH
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Opensea Storefront - Worst contract :frown:

Using Microsoft IP - Sell them and get sued :frown:


Imagine making an Age 2 board game. You use images from the game to make your board game.

Play with your friends and family? You all good, you just having fun with the game you love.

Sell in a shop? Oh no no, don't go profiting on Microsoft IP, they don't like that.

Do something Microsoft don't like and then sponsor an Age 2 tournament so you really make sure they know you are selling their IP...


I dunno what to say about that.
 
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  • Svalbard and Jan Mayen-R-

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #22
angelina_jolie said:
Its like a digital token that has something attached to it ( a picture, music, small video) or something you can exchange it for.
Because these digital tokens are on a blockchain (read about this) you can always see who the owner is. So the authenticiy is kept.
You can see these collections as pokemon cards but digital. Like some special cards in the early days are alot of worth. Some tokens now are only a few made. Thats why it can go up in value over time.

On the internet you can just copy paste some picture but never be the real owner. On the blockchain you can be. You can still copy /paste but never be the real owner except you purchase it. That's why rich people try to buy digital art (by Beeple, look him up) for millions of dollars, cause only few are made.
You can reprint the Mona Lisa or paint it just alike, but its never the real deal. Only if you got the real one.

Hope i explained it and make some sense 111
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So in short what @Beanslinger said Kappa
 
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Lord_patito
  • ArgentinaLord_patito

  • Jun 8, 2021
  • #23
Carlini8 said:
Opensea Storefront - Worst contract :frown:

Using Microsoft IP - Sell them and get sued :frown:


Imagine making an Age 2 board game. You use images from the game to make your board game.

Play with your friends and family? You all good, you just having fun with the game you love.

Sell in a shop? Oh no no, don't go profiting on Microsoft IP, they don't like that.

Do something Microsoft don't like and then sponsor an Age 2 tournament so you really make sure they know you are selling their IP...


I dunno what to say about that.
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As I said before, I'm not a connaisseur of NFT, so I can't give my opinion of opensea. I got a reply from the sponsor saying they're not violating Microsoft IP, and that they will provide a formal reponse shortly.

The business seems to be nice and legal. I can't give an opinion about the caracteristics of the product, since I lack the criteria to identify the qualities of the asset. That's a personal appreciation for those interested in that market
 
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  • AustraliaBeanslinger

  • Jun 9, 2021
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I find it problematic as because it doesnt translate into ownership of intellectual property, it allows people to sell digital copies of assets without any legal implication, such as was the case with Jason Rohrer when he set up an NFT auction using the artworks from the games he developed, without the artists permission or any amount of the funds going back to the artist. It just all seems quite shady. If you were to do the same with a physical copy of the artwork produced for a game, then you would not be able to get away with it.
 
Rey_Fer
  • SpainRey_Fer

  • Jun 9, 2021
  • #25
angelina_jolie said:
Its like a digital token that has something attached to it ( a picture, music, small video) or something you can exchange it for.
Because these digital tokens are on a blockchain (read about this) you can always see who the owner is. So the authenticiy is kept.
You can see these collections as pokemon cards but digital. Like some special cards in the early days are alot of worth. Some tokens now are only a few made. Thats why it can go up in value over time.

On the internet you can just copy paste some picture but never be the real owner. On the blockchain you can be. You can still copy /paste but never be the real owner except you purchase it. That's why rich people try to buy digital art (by Beeple, look him up) for millions of dollars, cause only few are made.
You can reprint the Mona Lisa or paint it just alike, but its never the real deal. Only if you got the real one.

Hope i explained it and make some sense 111
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OK ty I had heard about it indeed

still doesn't make sense to me, but whatever 11
 
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