Larger morale: Crony capitalism will eventually destroy everything you love!
Cronyism has little to do with greed.
Larger morale: Crony capitalism will eventually destroy everything you love!
What's worse is that they are worse than any previous DLC's. FE, African Kingdoms and RoTR at least had 4 civs, at least 1 new architecture, changes to the base game (new animals, arrowslits, free Carto etc.) and at least 4 campaigns. While this expansion doesn't even close to that, while still costing the same price. I am never against more civs (obviously), but atleast don't sell them in another expansion.
If they pump out DLC's now in civ packs of 2 each, then you know how much they care about the game
Oh look, a NPCAgain, can't believe people are considering this to be too expensive or a cash grab.
Ahh lovely, can't remember the date Userpatch or Voobly charged anything for every Userpatch Upgrade.how many hours have you put into this game? If they create content, it's only fair they get some form of payment for it.
Exactly, 100% agree to what you're saying. I mean some of the comments are out right non-sensical. I really don't understand people thinking its a cash grab or Pay2Win. I didn't want to bring any other genre of games into the discussion but Triple A titles are released with far less content and atleast 10 times the price. Again staying true to RTS games, we've seen what a disaster Warcraft 3 was, and that was released with no additional content and for far more.Differently to the previous DLC there's been continued patching and rebalancing done by the official development team instead of voobly creators though. I'm excited they're showing intent to keep "improving" by continuously adding features/content to this timeless game.
Yes, the game right now is not in a perfect state. Yes, there are bugs and unresolved issues.
But at the same time think about the advancement the game has seen over the last 2 decades. Who knew that in 2020 Microsoft would be pumping out another expansion for AoE2. Awesome news really for anyone that just wants to see this game alive and well.
Again, can't believe people are considering this to be too expensive or a cash grab. Anyone who's a registered zone member: how many hours have you put into this game? If they create content, it's only fair they get some form of payment for it. I donate to the streamers who keep the community alive and I will pay for new expansions and continued game support as long as they don't fundamentally mess up the core structure of the game. I'm very excited that AoE2 is still something with a future in Microsoft's eyes, despite the development of AoE4.
Oh look, a NPC
Lovely
Ahh lovely, can't remember the date Userpatch or Voobly charged anything for every Userpatch Upgrade.
Ah yes, do you want to speak about the "quality" of the content? No? I thought so.
Lets ignore that game developer all over the world don't care about quality anymore as long as NPC's like you exist. Who would expect Games to be playable on release?
I am pretty sure you also buy a new car which breaks down every 5 km, thinking that the mechanic will fix it.
NPC, promoter, sockpuppet...Every post in defense of this DLC sounds like it is a paid promoter or sockpuppet of someone involved with it. The addition of content is not inherently a good thing. If someone has a nice soup and then adds feces to it the soup is not improved.
Hello missing the point. It's not about adding it for free. It's about putting those who decide not to buy the dlc in an disadvantage. It is about being lied on. It's about the game you bought becoming less worth it since it is not the promised definitive edition. If players want to buy campaigns and SP only civs for whatever price ok. But don't devalue the original game by putting this stuff into multiplayer and start making aoe2 Hearthstone. As a small SP only dlc ok, but compared to other expansions it shares only the price.C'mon userpatch guys, give me the game for free, pls someone, run server for free. Everything should be free. Oh my work? Well that is charged my freind!
Every post in defense of this DLC sounds like it is a paid promoter or sockpuppet of someone involved with it. The addition of content is not inherently a good thing. If someone has a nice soup and then adds feces to it the soup is not improved.
I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for posting this, so let me rip the band-aid off. I REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS GETTING SO MUCH HATE.
1) We've generally had a very good year of Age so far. We've had monthly balance changes, community events, scenarios, unlockable cosmetics and a free game mode at 0 additional costs. This alone proves that the devs care about the game and community, and the DLC means that they're willing to keep supporting the game for another year atleast. I understand that there are minor inconveniences and the game is not in an ideal condition, but it's far from unplayable, but the devs roll out hotfixes. Otherwise people won't be logging in everyday to play.
2) Civs being OP is taken way out of proportion I feel. For all we know, the Burgundians are capped to knights or just get the gold back for knights not Cavalier or Paladin, as the bonus states fallen knights return 50% of their gold, not knight line. So rather than jumping to conclusions we should probably wait for their tech trees.
3) Civ balance is probably the best it's ever been, so I really don't understand people complaining about civs being unplayable. Obviously, if people just mean Arabia 1v1, then yes, certain civs will be unplayable. But generally all civs have a win rate of 45-55% give or take, and are often goods against certain match-ups or on certain maps.
4) Me as a casual player has not invested nearly the amount of time into the game as compared to pro payers or content creators. And they are generally excited about the release.
5) There are 3 new campaigns coming. I still think a large player base of the game does not involve themselves with online multiplayer as it is too daunting a task for them. They would rather chill and enjoy playing the campaign, and this is probably the best news for them.
6) I feel people really don't understand what Pay 2 Win means. Pay 2 Win in Age will probably be along the lines that upon Ageing up you get 500 on every resource if you prepurchase the DLC, which is not the case. Even if the new Civs are super OP, they will be nerfed, even if it takes a couple of months.
I understand people having strong opinions about this being a cash grab, that the marketing team is taking over and that AoE will die, and generally understand where they are coming from. But comparing this to another RTS remaster (Warcraft 3), I really feel AoE II is in an amazing spot. Yes, it still requires polishing here and there but there has been continued support from the developers. And I, in turn will support them. Thanking for listening to my rant.
PS: Not to act like Microsoft's Spokesperson, I do feel they should bring it down to $5.
NPC, promoter, sockpuppet...
Whats next?
Person A eats a paella cooked by someone else a couple of times a week for 2 decades together with others. Then the cook decides to try adding to the paella recipe.
Person A is so outraged by the proposition of adding/changing something about the paella that he forms an alliance with other people who've been having the paella to protest and shittalk the cook.
"You're ****. The Paella is either too hot or too cold, and you still haven't been able to get it right. It's your Paella, you should feel obliged to get it right. Despite me eating it for 20 years now, I hate it they way it is. You're going to charge me for your new Paella?? It's your Paella you have to take care of, but at the same time you can't charge me for changing the recipe for MY Paella. Capitalist pig. At the homeless shelter they give out Paella for free once every month. Why aren't you giving out new recipes for free? Whatever you change about it will be like adding feces to a good Paella. Although it's really not that great of a Paella to begin with. Don't all of you guys agree with me??"
The others: "Yes! Amen. **** the cook!"
The cook responds: "I appreciate you and the others shittalking me to let me know about your opinions. But actually, you can still have the old Paella anyway. If some of the other people in the restaurant are interested in my new Paella, then they can just order the new Paella. You don't have to take the new Paella from now on."
Person A responds: "I can't have the old Paella anymore now though! Are you kidding me? The new one will smell better. That's a ridiculous idea, to serve me the old Paella, while everyone else in the room gets the new one. I'm mad at you. F you!
PS: Everyone defending the new Paella is obviously hired by the cook or a family member or something to stop us from rightfully shittalking the cook."
Do you understand what "whats next" means?Do you understand what the phase "sounds like" means?
This is nonsense that does not address the point at all.
Every post in defense of this DLC sounds like it is a paid promoter or sockpuppet of someone involved with it. The addition of content is not inherently a good thing. If someone has a nice soup and then adds feces to it the soup is not improved.
"Combined with the constant demand for new content, it was still a logical, albeit maybe unexpected move " what a funny dev... Akward how logic can be different from human to human - for me this is the last i would call logical......
Welcome to the year 2020 were they target of humanty is MORE IS ALWAYS BETTER. (Most of the people seems happy with it)
Growth Growth Growth, Money Money Money, Higher Higher Higher! Eat or be eaten. Consumption as distraction
Thats how people think in the western society.
I came here - I fled here, to AoE 2 because other games didnt reach my hearth anymore.
Cold, steely, flat and spiritless Menu Design - soulless Events. 3 Ways to search for games, Quickplay, Ranked and Lobby. Leeds to even bigger searchtimes then HD (for me).
But when i read the comments of reddit - I hope and Ingame-Shop will be added soon because that is what the people deserve. Getting milked until the end.
I hope there will be 100s of more civs, more gamemodes, more skins. So more consumers arrive in this community.
I feel lost in DE like in Wc3 Reforged.
Now the business administrations boys even reached this game - I need to learn to live with it.
I know I'm not the target group because Money has the last status in my life. But still im not happy with it.
But im happy and thankfull for all the great nomad and mega random games i played with people in this community. Unbelievable joy and passion were put in this games. Thanks for that.
But it seems like always - everything comes to an end.
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Okay I was taking a break from aoe2, but now im definitely out, this is a sinking ship.
For those naivelings here: a DLC =/= support.
It is the opposite: this means marketing department is in full cruise control and they will milk this cow with minimal effort until it is bone dry. Please understand that these 2 civs, 3 campaigns and some events are child's play compared to the actual work of supporting a game and its community.
I feel sorry for the devs that actually do care, because these decisions are clearly comming from some suit that doesn't care or understand aoe2.
This is not a slap in the face its a direct turd in the mouth.
Actually there were a few small EW tournaments in Taiwan even before RBW, but yea its unpopular.So what do they do?
Release Empire wars, a completely unballanced gamemode that has received no attention since RBW
Release Age Royale, which is also a completely unballanced meme mode