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FireBall37 said:
I think Dash interrupts too much. Often he doesn't take time to acknowledge someone else, maybe because he's focusing on keeping the action moving. In any case, not my favorite
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Na man he just Dashing :roflmao::roflmao:
 
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Can we invite running to cast some matches?Does someone know if running lives near and has free time?
 
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Progeusz said:
That's the thing, he won't.
The only one who can be harmed by it is Mr Yo. CN government has no power over Nili, other than preventing CN players to join his tournaments.
It's very irresponsible to make jokes at the expense of another person while staying free of consequences yourself.

I've seen streamers get their entire careers terminated for showing Taiwan on stream, without even taking a stance on political views.
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You sound like a Nili Hater tbh. I personally did not like that Nili got political again but so far Mr Yo hasn't gotten in any problems. And Mr Yo also handled the situation really well.

The world can be a dangerous place, provided you are a stupid person and do not know how to keep yourself out of trouble. A lot of things have to happen in combination with bad decisions for a person to lose their career. Such social interactions happen all the time, I feel like every Chinese person has to deal with such conversations in their lives daily, it's the ones who aren't smart enough to avoid such talks be the ones who get in trouble. And Mr Yo immediately deflected the topic, instead of engaging further in it.

I don't really see why you would say that Nili won't suffer any repercussions, remember TGM? Whatever's going to happen to him, will happen. And as for Mr Yo, he didn't divulge himself in that topic to the point that he will get in trouble, he knows when it is a good time to keep quiet. So let's move over it
 
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A bit offtopic: I heard that YO had studied in Taiwan for while.
 
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HongeyKong said:
A bit offtopic: I heard that YO had studied in Taiwan for while.
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IIRC, he was an exchange student back then. It's quite normal here. You can find students from China on campus easily.
 
Progeusz

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kalpit00 said:
You sound like a Nili Hater tbh.
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You sound like a rabid fanboy who will always come defend him and ignore any reason.

kalpit00 said:
I feel like every Chinese person has to deal with such conversations in their lives daily, it's the ones who aren't smart enough to avoid such talks be the ones who get in trouble.
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Yeah "you feel". You're just clueless about the extent of the situation because you never really saw what they're capable of. But instead of being a reasonable person and considering other option you previously didn't think of, you're just gonna completely disregard anything that doesn't fit your "feel". AND you're gonna attempt to silence anyone who thinks differently by labeling them as "hater". Disgusting behavior.
 
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2023 - People still going crazy about Nillis sense of humor.

I have a strange feeling that it was less disturbing before the AoE4 case.
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You're just clueless about the extent of the situation because you never really saw what they're capable of.
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And are you an expert? Some people from China or Taiwan wrote here that is not a problem with the joke and Yo most likely won't be in trouble.

Also - Tawian is not a frobidden word in PRC. Republic of China (official Taiwan country name) is the problem there.
 
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plfan said:
And are you an expert?
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Never claimed being an expert (good job with the retort...) but I certainly know more than him and apparently you. Google Kiryuu Coco. Youtuber who was bigger than Viper, T90 and SoTL combined. Huge fanbase in China. Career ended because she showed Taiwan on stream. She was harassed for long months until being forced to leave the company.
www.youtube.com

The Full Story of Kiryu Coco's Taiwan Incident

After Coco's meteoric rise to stardom, Kiryu Coco embroils herself in an incident that is one of the most, if not, the most shocking and damning patches in t...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com


I sure hope Yo won't be in trouble but acting all happy like it's no big deal and nothing can happen is just naive. The risk IS there.
 
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Progeusz said:
Never claimed being an expert (good job with the retort...) but I certainly know more than him and apparently you. Google Kiryuu Coco. Youtuber who was bigger than Viper, T90 and SoTL combined. Huge fanbase in China. Career ended because she showed Taiwan on stream. She was harassed for long months until being forced to leave the company.
www.youtube.com

The Full Story of Kiryu Coco's Taiwan Incident

After Coco's meteoric rise to stardom, Kiryu Coco embroils herself in an incident that is one of the most, if not, the most shocking and damning patches in t...
www.youtube.com www.youtube.com


I sure hope Yo won't be in trouble but acting all happy like it's no big deal and nothing can happen is just naive. The risk IS there.
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Ok, but don't you see a difference in saying a word "Taiwan" and saying Taiwan is a country (which of course is)? You know the word Taiwan exist in PRC, but for their point of view is Taiwan Island, not a Taiwan Country.
Imo Nillis joke wasn't good, but not a big deal too. And it's Nilli. When you are watching Top Gear or the other Jeremy Clarkson show are you expecting flat, politically correct humor? Well... It's NILLI's Apartment Cup so...
 
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plfan said:
Imo
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You're still missing the point. It's not about your or mine opinion. It's about how CN can act upon it.

plfan said:
When you are watching Top Gear or the other Jeremy Clarkson show are you expecting flat, politically correct humor? Well... It's NILLI's Apartment Cup so...
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Awful comparison showing you still fail to understand the real issue. Go watch that video before you come back to discussion because it's clear you didn't even bother comprehending my words or having a single glance at example i brought up before replying yet again.

It's not about what Nili can or can't do.

It's about having basic human decency and caring about well-being of people who visit you. It's very possible nothing will come out of it and i pray that will be the case. However there is also a real risk Yo's career, financial stability, ability to visit future LANs could be jeopardized by this incident.


Edit: if you don't like videos, you can also read up on it in this thread https://old.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/nvrv4x/whats_up_with_the_chinahololive_controversy/

or surf through the internet yourself, looking for more sources to properly form your opinion on instead of just guessing (that's what one should do in general in my opinion, before talking about any subject)
 
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Who is the guy talking with The Kid?
 
arizonatears

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I think so far my favorite casting duos have been Dash/Hera and Dave/Lidakor. I really appreciate Lidakor's casting. Nili/T90 is a bit much since they both indulge one another's jokes, not totally my sense of humor. I've really enjoyed the casting/games/production overall though.
 
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Would love to see Memb there. His energy and experience is always entertaining. Truly a professional in every aspect.

The event so far is great. The production team is absolutely hilarious and full of quality. The casters from top to bottom are all doing amazing. Incredible event so far, I'd imagine the finals are going to be epic.

Hera is playing out of his mind right now. The focus and determination looks like Tatoh from Redbull. I'm really glad he's taking more chances and capitalizing on his advantages. Superb performance by him so far, he is my pick to win it all.
 
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_Raiden_ said:
Would love to see Memb there. His energy and experience is always entertaining. Truly a professional in every aspect.

The event so far is great. The production team is absolutely hilarious and full of quality. The casters from top to bottom are all doing amazing. Incredible event so far, I'd imagine the finals are going to be epic.

Hera is playing out of his mind right now. The focus and determination looks like Tatoh from Redbull. I'm really glad he's taking more chances and capitalizing on his advantages. Superb performance by him so far, he is my pick to win it all.
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Hera is to Aoe what Sweden is to ice hockey. Always try-harding (and steamrolling) in the group stages, being hyped to win the gold, only to sh*t the bed in the playoffs when it really matters.
 
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JayGould said:
Hera is to Aoe what Sweden is to ice hockey. Always try-harding (and steamrolling) in the group stages, being hyped to win the gold, only to sh*t the bed in the playoffs when it really matters.
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not really true at all.
 
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Hera has been a beast this edition, but apparently Viper was feeling sick. He rushed to the hospital a couple hours ago for stomach pain. Hopefully he gets better by his set <3
 
vesnoimorskoi

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JayGould said:
Hera is to Aoe what Sweden is to ice hockey. Always try-harding (and steamrolling) in the group stages, being hyped to win the gold, only to sh*t the bed in the playoffs when it really matters.
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He has a couple of big victories in his pocket and we yet to see how it will end this time
 
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So far tournament is quite good, except I personally don't like maps, not neccessary maps itself, I just don't get why it was needed to put ponds into so many maps. It feels like half of the maps have ponds and plays out same way, one player loses water and then plays another 15-20min and tries to come back but that barely ever works as guy with fish just gets to imp much faster. Even golden pit became about lakes, already saw few times someone gets 3 lakes and you just wait game to finish for 15min. Golden swamp worst map in tournament by far, feels like watching pretty much same game again and again. I miss atacama or land madness to see some more variety, Or even Cup instead golden swamp, where land actually is an option. I actually start to like northern islands even though I hate water, but that map almost always end up with landing sooner or later and what I like about it too that is one of few maps which often actually plays out about who holds middle gold. As most maps like golden pit usually ends up with treb war, but northern islands actually often ends up about having that gold and out sustaining. That yesterday's game Hera vs Viper was great. Sadly even with way more bans didn't really see many new civs yet, but I like the idea.
 
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Lokalo said:
So far tournament is quite good, except I personally don't like maps, not neccessary maps itself, I just don't get why it was needed to put ponds into so many maps. It feels like half of the maps have ponds and plays out same way, one player loses water and then plays another 15-20min and tries to come back but that barely ever works as guy with fish just gets to imp much faster. Even golden pit became about lakes, already saw few times someone gets 3 lakes and you just wait game to finish for 15min. Golden swamp worst map in tournament by far, feels like watching pretty much same game again and again. I miss atacama or land madness to see some more variety, Or even Cup instead golden swamp, where land actually is an option. I actually start to like northern islands even though I hate water, but that map almost always end up with landing sooner or later and what I like about it too that is one of few maps which often actually plays out about who holds middle gold. As most maps like golden pit usually ends up with treb war, but northern islands actually often ends up about having that gold and out sustaining. That yesterday's game Hera vs Viper was great. Sadly even with way more bans didn't really see many new civs yet, but I like the idea.
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Yeah feels like it is Masters of Golden Swamp
 
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Yeah, too many ponds for my liking. I'm mostly watching the vods though so not only do I not get ads, I can skip a lot of those maps too.

Loving it so far though. Dash has actually been really good, he's knowledgeable enough for it not to be detrimental. The head-enlarging and voice-changing was so funny. Really enjoying that playfulness. Will be sad when it ends!

Unless Hera and Leireyy meet in the final then Hera is going to steamroll this one easily.
 
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Careful about complaining for ponds there, they will bring back the OG Pond Arena 11
 
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Pond Arena>Golden Swamp
 
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really great stuff. i don't love Dash too much, although he has improved a lot. He is a great Caster and presenter but i think he takes too much room in the casting and his style seems a bit generic sometimes, a bit like a FIFA 18 commentator.
 
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Progeusz said:
just wow...

Mr Yo handled it well, instantly distanced himself from it and left the subject but with how China is, he could still get in trouble for that. I really hope he won't face backlash after returning home... very poor behavior by Nili. He should be aware of possible consequences for the player and yet he still chose to do that...
Man, this sucks. Mr Yo had to miss out on previous two huge LANs and when he finally managed to arrive at one, he gets quickly thrown under the bus by the organizer.
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Aoe2Killer to YoKiller. Nili is a real assassin.
 
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plfan said:
2023 - People still going crazy about Nillis sense of humor.

I have a strange feeling that it was less disturbing before the AoE4 case.
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Isn't that normal? It is a cumulation of things you do wrong... which is a quite a long list for Nili now...
 
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