The start of the tournament was very promising, but after WB final the games were just bizarre ... wtf was the "grand" final. Viper tried to make the games more interesting by playing weirdly and making mistakes that he would never do in a serious game? It was a complete waste of time to watch the "grand" final.
You are here for one month and you already think you can tell people to **** off? Know your place man. I am free to post my opinion, and I will continue to do so if I think it raises an important point. It wasn't intended as a critique of admin work anyway; they did a reasonable job overall. It is not the fault of the admins if players don't even play the grand final seriously. It is a shame, the final wasn't the one which the tournament deserved. I wanted to post this in the discussion of recs of the final, but it seems that they only got posted on aoczone and not aoezone, for whatever reason? What I am saying is that because no honest person would describe the finals as satisfactory or interesting, it would make sense to completely rethink the settings of the tournament in case one wants to host another version of this tournament. I don't think that having viper sign up is what makes a tournament successful, it is the games that make it successful or not.Please, remove yourself from this forum and return never again. I don‘t know you in personal life, you are maybe a whole other person. But here, you are just toxic. Please, go away and don‘t come back.
Although everyone know how much Im friend with Euler (lol), I kinda agree with him the grandfinal play by viper was sloppy, and from the 5 mins I watched in his stream, seems his viewers though the same. Viper losing fight he shouldn’t lose or even take. Anyway, I just wish viper stop stream his POV in final games of any tournament, even him admitted he doesn’t play his best when he is streaming but he still stream because that’s his job. Don’t take it too negative, the tournament was good, gmans is top, so is kc eron, and viper/tatoh/cL.
Just IMO to have a serious final and serious games everyone deserve and waiting for, players shouldn’t stream their POV in tournament with money involved.
Just compare how viper played in the grand final and how he played in the WB final vs stark. Viper went full hussars with slavs against arbs+halbs, adding skirms only when it was already over.. another particularly "interesting" part was https://youtu.be/LtMAF610QtM?t=2h51m34s. He doesn't play that sloppy usually, but in the grand final it was often like this, apart from the 1st game which was perfect. Do you really find such obvious misplay satisfactory? But yeah it was interesting to see every level of skill possible in one final.. sometimes 2k5 micro, sometimes 1k4 micro, sometimes 2k3 decision making, sometimes 1k8 decision making. Elsewhere this would be called match fixing, but of course in age of empires one doesn't take this seriously, maybe because it would be a laughable choice of words, as there was nothing competitive in these games. Pov streaming should be banned in the later stages of serious tournaments (so it was okay to allow it in this tournament).What part of the Grand Final was uninteresting and unsatisfactory?
Personally, and from what most of the twitch chat I saw thought the games were mostly incredibly good, with a variety of strategies and civ picks being utilised throughout, and even being a relatively close series,in a 9 game series is pretty good.8 games
Edit: Also saying that viper had to troll to lose any games is incredibly disrespectful to TaToH (or any opponent for that matter) who has done their best to compete, and do a bloody good job to get to the Grand Final in the first place.
He had FE and AOK civs available when I went for Mayans. Mayans is safe and solid option vs most civs there, but Aztecs for example can be tricky if he goes Turks.Just asking Viper, could you explain briefly why you pick the civs you picked (mainly byz and maya)? Id kind of understand other civ choices, although Id always pick different civ. But maya and byz just didn't make any sense to me.
But I thought biper is biper? My life is a lieI'm sorry to ruin your perception of me, Euler, but I'm not a perfect player, I actually make mistakes sometimes and don't play with perfect macro and micro all the time FeelsDauTMan
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