[KotD2] Questions & Answers

[Chrazini]

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Questions & Answers Post any questions regarding the tournament in this thread. We will do our best to get back to you as fast as possible.

 

[nimanoe]

Can Chinese players stream their POV and if yes, how much do they have to pay?

 

[Chrazini]

Can Chinese players stream their POV and if yes, how much do they have to pay?

We're only monitoring Twitch and YouTube. Players streaming on any Chinese platform is allowed to do so.

 

[T-West]

We're only monitoring Twitch and YouTube.

So anyone will be allowed to stream the games on Mixer without paying a fee?

How does the streaming policy apply to casting recorded games after the games have already been played/streamed live? The Recorded Games section says the games will be made "publicly available". Is anyone free to stream or to upload videos of the recs after they're posted?


Looking at the map script, as much as I enjoy how birds interfere with boar stealing, I personally prefer not having this happen during tournament games. You could consider either removing birds from the map, or setting their line of sight to 0 so they don't interfere with boar stealing (although it may be confusing to have birds with inconsistent behavior from other maps). Of course other people may prefer standard bird behavior and this doesn't really matter much, just something to consider


The admin restarts section of the game rules specifies "Any of the starting animals trapped or in any way inaccessible, this includes the 8 sheep, 2 boars and 4 deer." This description seems inconsistent with the changes to the map, which read "Deer has been replaced with zebras and always spawn in patches of three."

 

[nimanoe]

Looking at the map script, as much as I enjoy how birds interfere with boar stealing, I personally prefer not having this happen during tournament games. You could consider either removing birds from the map, or setting their line of sight to 0 so they don't interfere with boar stealing (although it may be confusing to have birds with inconsistent behavior from other maps). Of course other people may prefer standard bird behavior and this doesn't really matter much, just something to consider

You're a monster #Savethebirds

 

[Lanchi]

We're only monitoring Twitch and YouTube. Players streaming on any Chinese platform is allowed to do so.

You mean Casting the recs after you release it?
But nimanoe was mainly mean POV stream i guess

 

[Chrazini]

So anyone will be allowed to stream the games on Mixer without paying a fee?

How does the streaming policy apply to casting recorded games after the games have already been played/streamed live? The Recorded Games section says the games will be made "publicly available". Is anyone free to stream or to upload videos of the recs after they're posted?


Looking at the map script, as much as I enjoy how birds interfere with boar stealing, I personally prefer not having this happen during tournament games. You could consider either removing birds from the map, or setting their line of sight to 0 so they don't interfere with boar stealing (although it may be confusing to have birds with inconsistent behavior from other maps). Of course other people may prefer standard bird behavior and this doesn't really matter much, just something to consider


The admin restarts section of the game rules specifies "Any of the starting animals trapped or in any way inaccessible, this includes the 8 sheep, 2 boars and 4 deer." This description seems inconsistent with the changes to the map, which read "Deer has been replaced with zebras and always spawn in patches of three."

No - my wording was too specific. Players are not allowed to use any streaming service to stream their point of view without paying the fee. We aren't able to monitor the Chinese streaming services, so those are allowed by default.
Removing the LOS of the birds is an interesting idea, and I'll definitely consider it.
The handbook will soon be updated with the proper amount of deer/zebras.

You mean Casting the recs after you release it?
But nimanoe was mainly mean POV stream i guess

The recordings can be streamed by anyone once they have been released.

 

[asdfasdfasdf1]

I see that cliffs are removed for KoTD_arabia, is this really needed?

IMO it is something that adds randomness to maps. Randomness is already reduced by removing ponds (which is a good change btw), I'm just worried that streamlining maps to be more competitive will eventually take its toll. Arabia map generations might have too little variation.

 

[kw1k000000]

I see that cliffs are removed for KoTD_arabia, is this really needed?

Most of the times cliffs helped in walling hence its good that those are removed.

 

[GmanStreams]

Allowing chinese to get away with free streaming again because of a language barrier and a different platform is ludicrous to me. They know damn well what they are doing is not ok. Now seems like a good time to put an end to it imo.

 

[dodageka]

Not really a question, but I find the wording on the civ rules a bit complicated - given how civ picking has been an issue lately I think it could make sense to re-word that a little

 

[Lanchi]

Allowing chinese to get away with free streaming again because of a language barrier and a different platform is ludicrous to me. They know damn well what they are doing is not ok. Now seems like a good time to put an end to it imo.

Even that only $1 stream price is good, This $1 make them know who is the boss, it's not god give them the right to stream, it is given by admin.

 

[Carlini8]

How come you are not able to monitor it? We can all easily get access to their streams, I am sure someone such as Lanchi would happily tag the streams in a post under mind.

If they don't pay they don't stream, if they do stream, they face tournament ramifications.

However I guess my real question would be, there has been rumors the fee to cast is now removed due to Matt's $9k donation. Is this true?

 

[King_Marv]

How come you are not able to monitor it? We can all easily get access to their streams, I am sure someone such as Lanchi would happily tag the streams in a post under mind.

If they don't pay they don't stream, if they do stream, they face tournament ramifications.

However I guess my real question would be, there has been rumors the fee to cast is now removed due to Matt's $9k donation. Is this true?

Matt donated 9000$ to kotd2 prizepool?

 

[Carlini8]

Matt donated 9000$ to kotd2 prizepool?

Yeah, after the $9k to the BO37 this lead to a $9k donation to each NAC 2 and KOTD 2.

Rumors of prizepool increased to $15k for KOTD 2 with Membs amount put up changing to $1k and fee to cast removed. But I went to bed last night and wasn't up at that time, so have no clue if this is true or not, just what is circulating discord this morning.

 

[zuviss]

Matt donated 9000$ to kotd2 prizepool?

*to memb (as he did with nili)

Memb decided to put extra 5k into the prizepool and 4k to recover the money he was wonna put by himself. Nili decided to put the whole 9k into the prizepool, but still is raising donations to cover the basic costs of the tourney.

 

[King_Marv]

man this guy is on fire

 

[MaSmOrRa]

*to memb (as he did with nili)

Memb decided to put extra 5k into the prizepool and 4k to recover the money he was wonna put by himself. Nili decided to put the whole 9k into the prizepool, but still is raising donations to cover the basic costs of the tourney.

That's mind blowing. Wow.

This community does seem to have a special way of attracting incredibly generous (and yeah...rich) people!

 

[Chrazini]

@GmanStreams @Lanchi
We're not trying to assert dominance by making streamers and players pay to stream. While it might seem unfair at first glance, denying the Chinese players of streaming on their platform, which is completely isolated from Twitch/YouTube, would not benefit the tournament, nor would it benefit the community in any way.

@dodageka
Can you elaborate? What part do you find confusing?

Furthermore, the rumours about the huge tournament donation are still just rumours, and nothing is official yet. As of now, the rules and streaming policy will remain the same.

 

[dodageka]

@GmanStreams @Lanchi
We're not trying to assert dominance by making streamers and players pay to stream. While it might seem unfair at first glance, denying the Chinese players of streaming on their platform, which is completely isolated from Twitch/YouTube, would not benefit the tournament, nor would it benefit the community in any way.

@dodageka
Can you elaborate? What part do you find confusing?

Furthermore, the rumours about the huge tournament donation are still just rumours, and nothing is official yet. As of now, the rules and streaming policy will remain the same.

I think first three rounds have identical civ rules, but wording for second and third is different. Also, it does not say what happens with civilizations picked but not played in first two rounds (I read somewhere I think that they go back to the civ pool, but the handbook is not specific there).

I would probably write something like:

Round 1 Best of 5 – 10 different civilizations played.

1. Players pick five civilizations each.
2. Players may not use any of their civs twice

Round 2 Best of 5 – 10 different civilizations played.

1. Players pick five of their remaining civs each (civs not picked/played by them in round 1, whatever the correct one is)
2. Players may not use any of their civs twice

Round 3: Best of 5 – 10 different civilizations played.

1. Players pick five of their remaining civs each (civs not picked/played by them in rounds 1 and 2, whatever the correct one is)
2. Players may not use any of their civs twice

 

[Faultier321]

Looking at the map script, as much as I enjoy how birds interfere with boar stealing, I personally prefer not having this happen during tournament games. You could consider either removing birds from the map, or setting their line of sight to 0 so they don't interfere with boar stealing (although it may be confusing to have birds with inconsistent behavior from other maps). Of course other people may prefer standard bird behavior and this doesn't really matter much, just something to consider

Man, wouldnt it be completely mind-blowing, next level play if a player used the Bird LOS while doing a Boar steal on purpose?

 

[T-West]

Man, wouldnt it be completely mind-blowing, next level play if a player used the Bird LOS while doing a Boar steal on purpose?

I would love to see this in a causal/ranked game, but personally I feel that birds are a bit too luck based for competitive tournaments. I've seen some examples where a bird happens to help with a boar lure, but I haven't seen something intentional yet 11. I think it's totally reasonable to want to keep birds the way they are, just personally I think tournaments are better without this tiny bit of luck potentially allowing someone to steal a boar they otherwise couldn't just because a bird was flying nearby.

 

[iViktorius]

Mibble tried to do it intentionally but failed miserably 11

 

[Tempires]

Broadcasters must show the tournament banner and logo in-between games, during their streams. It must be made clear, during the stream, who is hosting and sponsoring the tournament.

Is still also not monitored for Chinese platforms? It feels unfair that Chinese do not need follow rules.

 

[TheVirus]

Is still also not monitored for Chinese platforms? It feels unfair that Chinese do not need follow rules.

I think it is a case of spending extra resources to monitor obscure chinese websites.