King of the Hippo - Feedback Topic

[Nili_AoE]

Feel free to give me feedback. I personaly had a lot of fun and might consider more weekend tournaments in the future.

Please tell me how I and the tournament in general could improve.

Cheers, Nili

 

[robo]

Really great, had a load of fun. Needs more fun weekend events like this

 

[GmanStreams]

Really great tournament Nili
Maybe some variation in civs in qualifiers could be fun, sometime it got kinda stale with same armies clashing all the time.
But all in all great fun and something way different from usual

 

[Q_W_e_r_T_y]

Great games, very fun to play.
Really liked to watch too.

 

[teutonic_tanks]

Really great tournament Nili
Maybe some variation in civs in qualifiers could be fun, sometime it got kinda stale with same armies clashing all the time.
But all in all great fun and something way different from usual

+1 would love to see this tournament again in the next months :D
maybe make it possible to pick from 3 civs, behaving like scissors, stone, paper, like we had in MoA3

 

Wear hippo hat for the whole tournament next time. 0/10 for commitment.

Really though - amazing idea for a tournament. The last two games today were the most fun games I've watched in a long time. I guess your hands were a bit tied with late sign ups / spots not being filled, but keeping the high and low signs properly separated would have been better. Dracont springs to mind... Just look at the stats for that qualifier.

Having the guest co-casters was a really nice idea too.

So nice to see a ~1650 player winning so much money from an AoC tournament. WP Future!

 

[Brainless]

I was not been able to watch all of it, but for what i have seen and heard it was really fun. You got it organised and entertained a lot of viewers. I think the setup is great. What i think is very good is that an average player had a chance to win something serious. For that i think the prize money could have been less. People will play anyway, if they love the game. And viewers will prefer 2 tournaments for half the prize then 1 for the full.

1 idea for entertainment purpose, maybe you should have content to play during pauses / setting up stream etc. The AOC remix music was awesome. A replay of tournament highlights, and ladder / outcomes summary maybe. Or a co-caster to evaluate the past games.

I hope i will be able to get some people and funds together for a 1-day AOC marathon. Your event gives me hope!

 

[Timotheus_]

Really was totally awesome. Great tourney

 

[ChristheCo]

I loved the tournament, it was really about strategy not about being able to perfome a better meta, the only thing i would like to change would be the reset time, 100 years was too long...

 

[nimanoe]

Really liked watching/playing in this tournament as well :D
Having different cocasters was really nice
Possible improvements imo are:

• mixed civ, perhaps like eleaten suggested
• instead of the high and low qualifiers, have some rating requirements like for example 0-1400, 1400-1700, 17+
• use Hippo mod in all the games
• maybe some games with the no wall mod, to make it a bit more aggressive and trushing more viable :twisted:

 

[karulg]

Is it possible to let the player that is controlling the wonder get more gold each seccond? Could lead to earlier fights and punish the players that just boom and wait for other players to kill each other.

 

[DracKeN]

This was the first time, so next time there will be way more players and it would be more balanced in qualifiers, I agree that I had advantage in my qualifier, but see today - Jose won his qualifier having there Pedro, influenza and vinchester, the winner is 16+ player and winning yellow, Vodka, me, TatoH and many others on his way. If you make this event in near future, it will get big amount of players, so the 64 spots would hardly be enough. Secondly, I think it would be nice if this one will be a bit more fair. Firstly with the maps, secondly with the players. IMO by far best strategy from all games was today glokken and even more Pedro in q8, just getting resources, saving gold, walling and not playing for the middle, until getting to that point, where you delete all your vills, mass 200 strongest possible army that other players (which already had to fight for the middle) absolutely can't match, mass 100 production buildings around with queued units and easily win the game. And then you have there players who have to save the day couple of times, fighting for the monument and then ofcourse starving for gold. So what's the purpose of this - the biggest 'bitch' wins it, when others have to do all the work (this is not only my opinion, I've spoke with friends who had way more experience than me with King of the hill mod and they all told me, this is why they pretty much stopped playing it). I think it's a way too unfair this way, I'd like to see rewarding 'like most active player' out of those who didn't win, and maybe letting him advance together with the winner? Best example today Vinchester - always trying to get middle or saving all by attackign the middle on his own and imagine if Jose didn't hold it, Pedro would just come and kill all, because he still had 15k gold, while others 0, not saying anything against Pedro, for this mod by far the best strategy but not fair by any means.
+1 to no wall mod, +2 to karulg idea, that would solve a lot if the amount of res would be set properly (maybe like getting more and more res as the years are going down would be absolutely amazing and it would be pretty much solving what I wrote, getting maps with low gold except the centre around wonder (golden_hill) or simply low gold overall would help this too. Another thing would be to get lower the starting amount of years, so maybe player with full kits would have better chance than player going full boom.. Also playing on smaller maps, would be helpful for the action, I was practicing 2 games with 6 friends on border dispute, size for 2 and it was damn awesome, very far to a boom game .

 

[RayoE2]

I really had fun watching it - none of the qualifiers which I saw were comparable to another - it was so very entertaining and q8 + final were absolutely awesome. Keep up with that format! :-)

 

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To be fair, for all your talk of saving gold and not attacking. The player who won the final this evening only had halbs, hussars (or was it even light cavs??) and rams for his last push. :D

 

[SMB360]

I guess a possible way to go about altering the game mode is to create 8 CS maps with triggers.

 

[DracKeN]

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To be fair, for all your talk of saving gold and not attacking. The player who won the final this evening only had halbs, hussars (or was it even light cavs??) and rams for his last push. :D

If you want to quote me, please do it properly or take some part not like this next time, it's pretty disrespectful. I was part of the final btw, so I know well what was happening in the game, no need someone to tell me. Yes he won with trash + rams, there are couple of reasons why he won it this way, one of them is for example that other players had trash as well, robo wasn't playing against him as much as he did against other players (instead killing me, which gave future more space around the monument and since me and tom had the best positions to push future out of the monument, it was pretty helpful too), both robo and tom sent their armies late, putting the gather/patrol point on the monument 5 years faster they would push future out. Future played well, but I guess even you will agree that if hedidn't loose all his army, castles and so on the first very close attempt to get the monument then his last attempt would work even better.

 

[Milmano]

I had a cracking time participating in this tourney. The mixture of settings makes it hilarious not only to watch but also play. For me it was refreshing to play something other than the standard settings (not that its a complaint). The banter in the chat in my quali was for me the main reason why i enjoyed it so much

Thank you nilli for organizing this tourney and ill surely be hoping for any potential future ones.

Btw glokken i do still love you :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

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To be fair, for all your talk of saving gold and not attacking. The player who won the final this evening only had halbs, hussars (or was it even light cavs??) and rams for his last push. :D

If you want to quote me, please do it properly or take some part not like this next time, it's pretty disrespectful. I was part of the final btw, so I know well what was happening in the game, no need someone to tell me. Yes he won with trash + rams, there are couple of reasons why he won it this way, one of them is for example that other players had trash as well, robo wasn't playing against him as much as he did against other players (instead killing me, which gave future more space around the monument and since me and tom had the best positions to push future out of the monument, it was pretty helpful too), both robo and tom sent their armies late, putting the gather/patrol point on the monument 5 years faster they would push future out. Future played well, but I guess even you will agree that if hedidn't loose all his army, castles and so on the first very close attempt to get the monument then his last attempt would work even better.

24, relax man. I wasn't having a go or saying anything negative.

 

[Q_W_e_r_T_y]

We gotta make a poll, almost sure Dracont is the revelation player of the year, also add losers bracket in MoMR.

 

[CondoM]

Thanks for hosting the tournament, I didn't see any of it, but it sounds a bit like the old Smackdown days which is always good to see!

 

[oomps]

I think no wall mod would help to stop the boom and mass army strategy, which would be nice to see. It would also nerf dave, which definitely needs to be done.
I also agree that a smaller prize would probably be beneficial. People would still sign up and it would be easier to raise the money for the event from the community, as opposed to you fronting the prize money (which was very generous by the way).
I didn't get to see too much, but from what I saw it looked like a great success and was also thoroughly entertaining, thanks for hosting it!

 

[Brainless]

IMO by far best strategy from all games was today glokken and even more Pedro in q8, just getting resources, saving gold, walling and not playing for the middle, until getting to that point, where you delete all your vills, mass 200 strongest possible army that other players (which already had to fight for the middle) absolutely can't match, mass 100 production buildings around with queued units and easily win the game. And then you have there players who have to save the day couple of times, fighting for the monument and then ofcourse starving for gold. So what's the purpose of this - the biggest '*****' wins it, when others have to do all the work (this is not only my opinion, I've spoke with friends who had way more experience than me with King of the hill mod and they all told me, this is why they pretty much stopped playing it). I think it's a way too unfair this way, I'd like to see rewarding 'like most active player' out of those who didn't win, and maybe letting him advance together with the winner? Best example today Vinchester - always trying to get middle or saving all by attackign the middle on his own and imagine if Jose didn't hold it, Pedro would just come and kill all, because he still had 15k gold, while others 0, not saying anything against Pedro, for this mod by far the best strategy but not fair by any means.

I think thats exactly the beauty of this setup. It takes the game to a new, psychological level. Play poker

 

[Skittle]

So pedro hat by far the best strat but didnt win? And you used the same but got defeated? Future was the one who tried it 3x and won it with 95% trashunits.... also tatoh went instant to the middle in the qualifier and held it til the end....

Great tournament, it was fun to play and watch :-)

 

[edie]

I havent followed anything(yet) but from what i read it was very good and fun. And to me any tournament / setting - open, not locked invitational, is good for aoc, so thank you Nilli for hosting.

 

[DracKeN]

I think thats exactly the beauty of this setup. It takes the game to a new, psychological level. Play poker

Thx I play poker every day.

So pedro hat by far the best strat but didnt win? And you used the same but got defeated? Future was the one who tried it 3x and won it with 95% trashunits.... also tatoh went instant to the middle in the qualifier and held it til the end....

The game isnt only about strategy, especially this mod is so much about correct timing. Let me put it this way - pedro had biggest chance to win, because of his strategy, he just waited too long. I didn't use same strategy as pedro, I didn't have enough gold in my base to do it, I thought my best chance was to get it quite fast, when everybody will be still booming and trying to raid others around, because I thought that all in gold attack by celt is unstoppable (I still think so, just needs better micro and a bit less lag and maybe slightly better position with buildings around the monument) + possibly walling it, which would give player quite some time. Another problem was, that when I was preparing my own attack, I had to use my units to get future out of wonder, otherwise we would loose very fast. Lastly, according to statistics my attack was the biggest here, but it was very poorly timed, everybody went into middle and they killed me very fast. To be fair, I think it was by them best defense and team cooperation out of all games (maybe together with killing glokken's push in q8, it was very well done too).