DemEyesRed Arena Cup

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Hey guys!

I am excited to finally announce the first tournament that I am going to host: DemEyesRed Arena Cup (DERAC). Since we had quite some great events that focused on Arabia or different Random Maps, I decided to put a spotlight on Arena once again. Similar to what Killer B did last year, I will also go for a single weekend and chip in with a prize pool of $350.

To advertise the tournament, I have teamed up with 6 Arena experts to create an Arena 1v1 civilization tier list. Each tier contains a handful civs that we analyze on a theoretical as well as on a practical level. While I highlight aspects of each civilzation's tech-tree, the experts back me up with practical information about Imp-Options as well as potential weaknesses. The first episode is available right now (adding the newest episode to the list every weekend):

1v1 Arena Tier List (TIER 1) with JonSlow, Melkor & MrGPN
1v1 Arena Tier List (TIER 2) with Melkor, Vinchester, Feanor, MrGPN, Dracont & Stefan


8 players with the highest elo will be able to qualify and the registrations are open till March 17th, 23:59 GMT.
Furthermore, please only apply, if you are available to play the first round between March 18 and March 29. The timing of the first round will be scheduled between you and your opponent. Also, you will need to be able to available to play the semis/finals on Sunday, March 31st.

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Sign Up for the tournament here [Closed]

To make things more special, Chrazini has prepared a new version of Arena for this event, for which you can check out the differences further below. This map is going to be the one being used for the entire tournament. Players are asked to get the file via Voobly to receive the latest updates:

DERAC_Arena

I am fully aware, that there are people who like Arena and others who simply hate it (as it is normally the case for any other thing on this world), but my aim is not to confirm prejudices, but instead, I will provide you all with a single weekend of a solid and clean tournament.

The tournament will be streamed on my own channel exclusively and there will be (beloved) co-casters for every matchup.

DERAC_Arena & the differences from standard Arena:

• Most units and objects have been changed to fit the middle eastern theme.
• The elephants have the same amount of food as a standard boar (340 food).
• The speed of the elephants has been slightly decreased to make up for the faster attack animation.
• Extra resources can no longer spawn unfairly inside a players base.
• Elephants and Zebras will always spawn inside the walls.
• One of your starting goats will always start in your possession.
 
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#37
Most viewers probably don't care but I would have 0 interest to watch an arena tournament with no arena players involved which might happen depending on who will still sign up. I would like to see at least Melkor, Terror and Lojza play:thumbsup:
I wrote something similar before. I don't know how fair it is, but to me it would be interesting to have two seeding lists, one with "Arena players" and one with others and then for example take the top 4 from the "Arena players" list and the rest from the top of the other list.
 

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Just from the amount of good players, that are trying to get into this tournament, you should consider to increase it from 8 to 16 spots imo
Good suggestions, but not possible due to Hidden Cup 2, which would cause overlapping events. I am happy enough, if that one single weekend of DERAC will not be affected by possible Hidden Cup qualifcation games. So maybe next time.

Most viewers probably don't care but I would have 0 interest to watch an arena tournament with no arena players involved which might happen depending on who will still sign up. I would like to see at least Melkor, Terror and Lojza play:thumbsup:
it would be interesting to have two seeding lists, one with "Arena players" and one with others and then for example take the top 4 from the "Arena players" list and the rest from the top of the other list.
I appreciate the feedback. My main premise of this Tournament is delivering a good, clean weekend of high level gameplay on a map that has not been seen on screen for a longer period of time. I understand your points, but I do not want to separate between differents categories of players in order to design my tournament according to that. Nevertheless, I would be personally sad, if players like Melkor and Terror would not make it (not mentioning Lojza, because he broke my heart yesterday by not playing on DERAC_Arena.... KAPPA), but they still have chances, as Terror has reached his maximum Elo ever yesterday and Melkor, who is on a heavy grind, hits 2k4 regularly.
I do not think, that this is going to be my last tournament this year and if I am given more time (which also depends a lot on, whether the big streamers host their own great events) I will think of designing an event that is more inclusive in order to give more people chances.
But for now, DERAC will be the way it has been announced.
 

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#44
I think if CL is in shape he can win the tourney if mbl/viper won't sign up.

Pity that there are only 8 slots. You could do a week earlier and make it 16 slots.

Nice to see the former arena master Lojza signing up. Also wondering how Vivi will play on this tourney.

Looking forward to this =)
 

Czech RepublicDraCoNT

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Congratz DemEyesRed. Announcement looks very professional and the game settings are great and simple at the same time. I can imagine how much time you put into preparing this tournament + there will be 7 videos about all 31 arena civs (if I'd go for coaching arena players again, first of all, I'd tell them to watch those videos to perfectly understand why are civs good/bad on Arena) and you're putting a lot of time and effort into those aswell. If people haven't watched the first video yet, I'd recommend it, it's definitely worth.

That being said, I'm really happy about the signups so far. I wasn't expecting top players taking part in Arena event with 300 prizepool, but I'm happy it's happening and it's showing me that Arena is more popular map among the experts than I thought, which is great. However, there are only 8 spots and the players will qualify based on their ELO. Best Arena players don't have the same ELO as best Arabia players, because Arena isn't played by as many players. You can't reach 2k6 on Arena, while playing top 5 arena players having 2k2 rating, especially with rnd civs - the way how Arena is played currently. There's almost no way that Melkor (likely best clown right now) will have higher rating than for example vivi before the tournament starts, although he's significantly better Arena player and I'm speaking from my own experience. It would be sad if the biggest 1v1 Arena tournament since MoA5 would have almost no Arena players in there, because they'd not have 2k4+ needed to qualify and it can easily happen.

I'm not sure how to solve that for future "weekend tournaments" which are so limited by time and therefore have to limit the amount of players. Making 2 brackets for Arena and non Arena players will never be fair, as each time one bracket will be stronger. I think Melkor should still make it into the event and maybe Terror aswell, but Feanor is another Arena player with better Arena skill than vivi, CL, Tim, ACCM and he's unlikely to qualify due to seeding.
I really hope that all top players qualifying to top 8 will put enough time and effort to practise the map, because they're having spot instead of some very motivated Arena player, who might be actually better, just with worse ELO.

I think if CL is in shape he can win the tourney if mbl/viper won't sign up.

Pity that there are only 8 slots. You could do a week earlier and make it 16 slots.

Nice to see the former arena master Lojza signing up. Also wondering how Vivi will play on this tourney.

Looking forward to this =)
It depends if the map is played with 900 or 1800 HP walls, I guess 900. We will see a lot of trushes by Asian players therefore, but that shouldn't be a real threat anymore, especially with hidden pick civs vs slavs or aztecs. CL isn't good Arena player, Melkor is clearly the strongest player signed up so far. Viper signing up would obviously change that, MbL is an amazing player, but not on Arena for almost 3 years (which is obvious given that he doesn't like the map and almost never plays it).
 

Czech RepublicDraCoNT

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Yeah, let’s generalize clowns vs top players based on MoA5, where none of clowns finished top 4 and most of them we’re eliminated by trush, which they had very little experience to play against. I can only speak from my own experience facing every 18+ player signed up so far in at least 5 Arena games, can’t be compared to important MoA 5 results. Let’s also ignore latest 1v1 tournament, where clowns toyed with top players.
 

Czech RepublicDraCoNT

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Ah, ok that makes sense. Milking top players on a map they can’t play doesn’t count. Please, don’t update his highest rating in your “highest rating achieved list” or at least add a note how he got that rating and that it was also due to wakko’s inactivity. Thx.
 

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