2023 AoE 2 Nations Cup [$18,622 Prize Pool]

Dear AoE 2 community, this topic (Nations Cup Waiting Room) has hurt me a lot. In summer 2020, I already tried to give the community something similar with the 2020 AOElympics while waiting. Many of us believed the follow-up of the great 2017 Nations Cup would come soon, in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022... But it never came.

Therefore, I am offering you my approach. I will organise the 2023 4v4 Nations Cup, starting in around 5 weeks. Registration will be open until Saturday, January 28, 20 GMT. The qualification stage will begin in the following week.
This will be a tournament for fun and prestige. However, if anyone wants to contribute to a prize pool, you can do so via the tournament's Matcherino page: https://matcherino.com/t/nc23 where you also can see the current donation sum at all times.

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The exact rules and settings will follow soon, but some important key points are:

• The main event will consist of a group stage (8x4 teams) and a double-elimination knockout stage.
• Max. 4 teams from one nation can enter the main event.
• Teams consist of 4-10 players, substition and addition of backup players will be possible at certain stages of the tournament.
• When a team registers, they have to give list of up to 5 maps which they want to have in the tournament. The maps with the most points will be added to the map pool. So you decide a part of the map pool!
• How exactly the qualifying phase works will depend on the number of registered teams; more about that later.
• A Silver League for teams that don't qualify for the 32-team group stage will happen, if we have enough interested teams.

Staff currently are @Huehuecoyotl22, @enmipho, @paradox303, @welcometorapture and @Akkal.

Any questions and discussion, as well as the registration can start on the 2023 Nations Cup Discord now: https://discord.gg/5fBkzfqHhb

Everybody is welcome!

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How to forget those sling days, full team wall, one guy booming forever in feudal age, the fastest guy in team getting the sling and other player just booming that was aoe2 at it's peak lol

Sling just make the already strong teams even stronger, so allowing it is a terrible idea, sling fest ruled aoe events since the release until late 2015 and at that point it was a sling contest.

 

Through matcherino you can also add to the prizepool by liking the pages of sponsors (you can unlike/unfollow later), who then make a small donation to the prizepool of the event. The amounts contributed this way may seem borderline insignificant (20, 30, maybe 50 cents per like), but they do add up, and by merely clicking a few times viewers/players from "poorer" countries, who might otherwise not entertain the possibility of donating, can end up contributing a couple bucks to the tournament entirely for free.

Yes! It's very easy to do and everyone can basically follow a few accounts to add an extra dollar. It's a really nice mechanism of the website. If a few hundred people do it, it's an extra few hundred dollars in the pot. A really easy way for anyone to contribute.

 

with everything argentina!!

Te nacionalizaste argentino ahora, boludo?

 

Through matcherino you can also add to the prizepool by liking the pages of sponsors (you can unlike/unfollow later), who then make a small donation to the prizepool of the event. The amounts contributed this way may seem borderline insignificant (20, 30, maybe 50 cents per like), but they do add up, and by merely clicking a few times viewers/players from "poorer" countries, who might otherwise not entertain the possibility of donating, can end up contributing a couple bucks to the tournament entirely for free.

Could you explain this a touch better?
after logging in, where do I "Like" the sponsors, on macherino or somewhere else?
what do you mean by clicking a few times viewers/players?

and side question:
There was a mention of payments are directly done to the players, so do all the participating players have to register/login here too? I guess this detail might be there in the handbook(For which i will wait for the 4hr handbook readthrough by Paradox...11).

 

Yes! It's very easy to do and everyone can basically follow a few accounts to add an extra dollar. It's a really nice mechanism of the website. If a few hundred people do it, it's an extra few hundred dollars in the pot. A really easy way for anyone to contribute.

okay, now i get it. paradox to the rescue

 

and side question:
There was a mention of payments are directly done to the players, so do all the participating players have to register/login here too? I guess this detail might be there in the handbook(For which i will wait for the 4hr handbook readthrough by Paradox...11).

It would definitely be an option and in that case easier, if just one member per team that receives prize money logs in and withdraws the money to then distribute it among their team, as we also will have no idea, how each team wants to distribute their money, as often in long TG tournaments not all team members play equally much.

 

It woul definitely be an option and in that case easier, if just one member per team that receives prize money logs in and withdraws the money to then distribute it among their team, as we also will have no idea, how each team wants to distribute their money, as often in long TG tournaments not all team members play equally much.

True.

 

Te nacionalizaste argentino ahora, boludo?

no, pero me caen bien y son vecinos

 

Super hyped. Argentina will be champion, this time, in AoE!

 

How do I create an account in matcherino?

I want to donate, but don't have paypal and I'm in India.

 

How do I create an account in matcherino?

I want to donate, but don't have paypal and I'm in India.

@Adico Can probably answer it better, but to me it looks like you can log in using various accounts, e. g. your Facebook account, Twitter account, Discord account, Google account...

 

OMG!! I was waiting for this tournament for a long time!!

 

Sur cette page la il faudrait parler de matchrino pour inciter les gens au dons gratuitement qu'en pensez-vous

 

@Adico Can probably answer it better, but to me it looks like you can log in using various accounts, e. g. your Facebook account, Twitter account, Discord account, Google account...
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Oh ok, so we cannot create an account, but connect through other accounts like gmail or twitch.

Also, is paypal the only way?

 

Oh ok, so we cannot create an account, but connect through other accounts like gmail or twitch.

Also, is paypal the only way?

Yeah, you log in via any of the ones listed.

It might be in your country. Other countries have debit/credit card options as well, although in those cases, it still goes through the PayPal system.

 

Yea it seems like for now payment is all powered by PayPal which is a notable downside imo, even more when PayPal sees donating to matcherino as a service that is worth ~5% fee (in germany or EU).
Come on PayPal, a simple transaction and you think its ok to tax potentially $100+, really?

 

Yea it seems like for now payment is all powered by PayPal which is a notable downside imo, even more when PayPal sees donating to matcherino as a service that is worth ~5% fee (in germany or EU).
Come on PayPal, a simple transaction and you think its ok to tax potentially $100+, really?

Would it be a bad idea for people who don't want to use PayPal to send money to paradox and he puts it in?

 

I assume PayPals domestic/international payment fees aply (even though in this case there is no service like insurance etc from PayPal whatsoever, beyond simply transfering money) and since matcherino is a us based company I assume, payment by US people should be a little bit cheaper. Not sure how much though.
So maybe in the case of gathering money from people without PayPal or if bigger donations are in the plans, it may at least help to do that via a US person.

 

I assume PayPals domestic/international payment fees aply (even though in this case there is no service like insurance etc from PayPal whatsoever, beyond simply transfering money) and since matcherino is a us based company I assume, payment by US people should be a little bit cheaper. Not sure how much though.
So maybe in the case of gathering money from people without PayPal or if bigger donations are in the plans, it may at least help to do that via a US person.

if you send money via paypal to an EU guy and you send as if you send a family/friend and not like paying a product, the fees is 0%.

 

if you send money via paypal to an EU guy and you send as if you send a family/friend and not like paying a product, the fees is 0%.

I know, but I assume you can't send money to a company and the company wouldn't easily be able to allocate that money to a specific crowd funding project.
If it is offered by the company PayPal charges its fees for paying goods and services. If I see it correct that is ~5% fee to accounts in a foreign country (EU/EEA is handled like domestic payments).
Would mean, a EU guy pays 5% to paypal for donating to matcherino in the US and a EU player is charged again 5% if he likes to transfer his prize to his paypal.

I see it is transparent and ofc comfortable for admins to have players sign up and than the admins can just something like click payout and are done, instead of asking for multiple paypal-adresses.
However I would much prefer a 1%+x bankwire fee capped at 5€.

Thought maybe someone here might know about such things.
Like some years ago I didn't know, that it is much better to send money in eg $ and let the conversion be done by your creditcard bank, than converting it by PayPal with their pretty bad exchange rates.

 

2017's finalists Brazil and Finland have been invited directly into the group stage, with the requirement that at least 3 of their players from 2017 are in the registered team again, which is the case:

(Image by paradox303.)

 

3k fast approaching... Thank you to everyone that's donated so far!

 

I am aware that this problem will always come up once a nation-based event happens. However,
1. This is just the announcement banner, we will have a different, official, more professional banner to be used by streamers later, and
2. I have already learned that it is safer to talk about "nations" than "countries", because teams will definitely not be based on what is internationally and undisputedly recognised as a "country" or "state".

Displaying Crimea and the Donbas as Russia seems like a very clear and intended political message.

 

Bonjours a tous j'avais une question le prize pool du tournoi va t'il s'arrêter a 5000 dollard ou va aller au dessus une fois la cagnotte a 5000 dollard

 

Bonjours a tous j'avais une question le prize pool du tournoi va t'il s'arrêter a 5000 dollard ou va aller au dessus une fois la cagnotte a 5000 dollard

Desolé, je ne parle pas bien Francais, mais:

Le prize pool ne s’arrête pas á 5000 dollard, nous acceptons avec soulangement des donations aprés des 5000 dollard aussi.

Or if you prefer to google translate : The donation goal does not «stop» at 5000 $, we’d be more than happy to see the prize pool grow higher, to furter benefit the participating nations!