Its interesting we are debating WK balance when we can see 1v1 AoC balance in the Polaris series where maps are selected by the sponsor and the viewers but the players chooce their civs with no limitation. Here are the result from the three series so far. Everyone can make a conclusion.
Mr Yo vs Pike
Hideout - Mayans vs Aztecs
Beduins -Chinese vs Chinese
Ghost lake - Mayans vs Aztecs
Nomad – Chinese vs Chinese
*Arena - Teutons vs Aztec
Mr Yo vs Bact
Atacama - Aztecs v Aztecs
Ghost lake - Mayans vs Mayans
Migration – Vikings vs Vikings
Meatballs – Mayans vs Mayans
Yucatan – Mayans vs Mayans
Triple Arabia – Huns vs Huns
Border Dispute – Chinese vs Mongols
Mr Yo vs Lyx
Golden Hill Huns vs Huns
**Ghost lake - Mayans vs Mayans
Migration – Vikings vs Vikings
Tsunami – Vikings vs Vikings
Gold Rush – Mayans vs Mayans
Megarandom - Mayans vs Huns
Beduins – Chinese vs Chinese
*Result 4-0 the game is irelevant
** Could not find replay so may not recall corectly.
PS. I personally enjoy the Polaris series alot. Saying that as I am just making a point for the balance of AoC and WK.
Its interesting we are debating WK balance when we can see 1v1 AoC balance in the Polaris series where maps are selected by the sponsor and the viewers but the players chooce their civs with no limitation. Here are the result from the three series so far. Everyone can make a conclusion.
Mr Yo vs Pike
Hideout - Mayans vs Aztecs
Beduins -Chinese vs Chinese
Ghost lake - Mayans vs Aztecs
Nomad – Chinese vs Chinese
*Arena - Teutons vs Aztec
Mr Yo vs Bact
Atacama - Aztecs v Aztecs
Ghost lake - Mayans vs Mayans
Migration – Vikings vs Vikings
Meatballs – Mayans vs Mayans
Yucatan – Mayans vs Mayans
Triple Arabia – Huns vs Huns
Border Dispute – Chinese vs Mongols
Mr Yo vs Lyx
Golden Hill Huns vs Huns
**Ghost lake - Mayans vs Mayans
Migration – Vikings vs Vikings
Tsunami – Vikings vs Vikings
Gold Rush – Mayans vs Mayans
Megarandom - Mayans vs Huns
Beduins – Chinese vs Chinese
*Result 4-0 the game is irelevant
** Could not find replay so may not recall corectly.
PS. I personally enjoy the Polaris series alot. Saying that as I am just making a point for the balance of AoC and WK.
If a couple of free pick hidden civ event happen for WK it will settle in same. Just the names will change. You should check settings of Escape events, some sort of civ enforcement was always there.
RF? in aoc it's 100% mayans war.
That is not true. Viper chose goth and smashed daut easily in RF. Still thinking that maya is OP? :shock:
1. All Stars was one tournament. Check rest of escape settings, I think you played in most.
2. WK meta is still in exploring phase. Give it 2-3 big 1v1 tourneys and it will settle down.
3. Variety in Aoe2 can be done by Starting age, starting res & maps to an extent. Balance patches will result into same situations just with diff civs.
Aoc after all these years during the last big tournament (this nations cup) you still have meta changing and some civs being picked where it was not used before, but people know what is best in what situation because all the years being played in high lvl tournament games.
Expansions will be exact the same, it just takes time to find the new best civs in each map.
Btw, the best civ in most of the 1v1 grush maps has changed during this nations cup and its not vikings anymore... So where is your unbalanced game now?
1. All Stars was one tournament. Check rest of escape settings, I think you played in most.
2. WK meta is still in exploring phase. Give it 2-3 big 1v1 tourneys and it will settle down.
3. Variety in Aoe2 can be done by Starting age, starting res & maps to an extent. Balance patches will result into same situations just with diff civs.
Magyars no longer need a blacksmith for free attack upgrades.
@Jineapple or scripter is there a way to implement in the civ pool from the game an option to choose like mirror or team random but lets say FETR,AKTR, RoRTR, that only chooses civs from those expansions and ofc an ExpansionsTR which could include all dlc civs, so it would be easier to test the new civs without having to pick them manually :P that would help a lot!
Wk is more fun than AoC that is the true, the main reason relays in the integration of new civs most of them unknown for most players, so they try different strats.
The main problem with the new civs is the religion stuff they break the balance in terms of monk civs, most of them have most important upgrades, with the help of macros, monks are going to be unstoppable i think 10 of 12 have got redemption, which is insane, and that's historically inaccurate we all know christianism was/is the most powerful in terms of conversions :lol: