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  • Thread starter United Kingdomjbr_aoe
  • Start date Dec 30, 2022
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The first S-Tier event of 2023 is coming - T90 Titans League is back!



The T90 Titans League is a recurring league which aims to provide a consistent high level stage for pro players to hone their skills, and give newcomers a chance to prove their ability and advance into the upper echelon of players.

Season 2 will begin on 2nd January with 5 weeks of round robins before getting into the playoff round. Players will be placed into ‘pots’ based on their previous placement within T90 Titans League. They will then be randomly drawn, with one player from each pot in each group.

The draw took place on Tuesday 27th December at ~21GMT here.

The groups will be:

Platinum League:

Group AGroup BGroup CGroup D
VinchesterMbLHeraTheViper
NicovLiereyyJordanVillese
DauTMr YoCapochTatoh
ACCMBacTmiguelBarles
ValasDrackenGanjiSitaux
RunningDarkKingstoneSebastian

Gold League:

Group AGroup BGroup CGroup D
slamclassicprodogaoDragonstar
BadBoysaymynameSongSongVivi
FreakinAndySobekmargougouF1Re
DanielrepardNiliLyx/iBUYPOWER
Hearttt/JibatongWhocl/GabiD3rp/BiryLaaaaaN/PhillipHJS
Bad Koala/WhitecourtMihai/El MatadorOvertaken/HoangSomero/Hope


Prize Money

The prize pool of $22,500 has been sponsored by Microsoft.

Platinum League: $17,300
1st place: $2,100
2nd place: $1,400
3rd & 4th place: $1,000
5th - 8th place: $500
9th - 12th place: $200
13th - 24th place: $150

Plus $40 per game won in the group stage (a maximum of $600 if you win all 15 games)

Gold League: $5,200
Group Winner: $180
Playoff Winner: $150
Playoff Loser: $115
4th in Group: $80
5th in Group: $60
6th in Group: $40

Plus $15 per game won in the group stage

Schedule

Platinum League


Group Stage: Jan 2nd - Feb 5th
Round 1: Jan 2nd - Jan 8th
Round 2: Jan 9th - Jan 15th
Round 3: Jan 16th - Jan 22nd
Round 4: Jan 23rd - Jan 29th
Round 5: Jan 30th - Feb 5th

Playoffs: Feb 6th - Feb 12th
Ro12: Feb 9th
Quarterfinals: Feb 10th
Semifinals: Feb 11th
Final: Feb 12th

Gold League

Group Stage: Jan 2nd - Feb 5th
Round 1: Jan 2nd - Jan 8th
Round 2: Jan 9th - Jan 15th
Round 3: Jan 16th - Jan 22nd
Round 4: Jan 23rd - Jan 29th
Round 5: Jan 30th - Feb 5th

Playoffs: Feb 6th - Feb 12th
Deciders: Feb 7th & Feb 8th


Players will be given a large degree of flexibility over scheduling. If they wish to stream their POV, they will be required to play during predetermined slots. These slots will be at 16GMT, 18GMT and 20GMT on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays.
If players are unable to play in an available slot, they may play private games, with no pov streaming allowed and the recorded games will be broadcast at another time.

There will be open casting during these timeslots (and of published recs at anytime).

Maps

T90 Titans League Season 2 will feature:

Acropolis
Arabia
Arena
Cross by TheMadCADer
Fortified Clearing by Chrazini
Fortress (Regicide)
Ghost Lake
Kilimanjaro
Nomad
Scandinavia
Shoals by Chrazini

Start practicing today by downloading the map pack here or by searching for “T90 Titans League Season 2 - Map Pack” in the in-game mod workshop.

The map pack is edited and maintained by T-West.

Handbook available here.
 
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  • ArgentinaChainsaw

  • Dec 31, 2022
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Nice map variety. Looking forward to it!
 
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  • United StatesGiuseppe551

  • Dec 31, 2022
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Really confused by Microsoft's priorities here. Why is this getting less prize money than a much less serious tournament like Wandering Warriors Cup? If this is supposed to be aoe2's GSL (which would be great) it really needs to have a commensurate prize pool.
 
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  • United StatesLowEloNobody

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #4
Giuseppe551 said:
Really confused by Microsoft's priorities here. Why is this getting less prize money than a much less serious tournament like Wandering Warriors Cup? If this is supposed to be aoe2's GSL (which would be great) it really needs to have a commensurate prize pool.
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Didn't they pre-fund 2-3 seasons of TTL?
 
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  • United Kingdomjbr_aoe

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #5
I can't speak to how the prize money is agreed with MS as I have not been a part of that process but yes this is the second one so in reality the prizepool of this has been $45,000 so far. T90 openly talks about the intention of this being a regular recurring thing so hopefully we will see it continue to be successful and help grow the high level player base.
 
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  • United StatesGiuseppe551

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #6
Ok well just change the Liquipedia tier and we're good to go then.
 
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  • ArgentinaTupac

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #7
Lower tier leagues are coming back too, right?
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #8
Tupac said:
Lower tier leagues are coming back too, right?
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Yep, Silver has been going on all month and will conclude tomorrow with 9 names being promoted to fill the relegation spots from Gold.

Gold & Platinum will begin this week and play out similarly to how S1 did.
 
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  • United Kingdomjbr_aoe

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #9
Giuseppe551 said:
Ok well just change the Liquipedia tier and we're good to go then.
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We don't have any control over Liquipedia tiers, they decide based on their own criteria (https://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Liquipedia:Notability_Guidelines).
 
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  • FinlandTopperHarley

  • Dec 31, 2022
  • #10
Giuseppe551 said:
Ok well just change the Liquipedia tier and we're good to go then.
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Platinum league is already at S-tier, so whats the problem?
 
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  • Belgiumoozkan

  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #11
I don't even care about Platinium this time, just waiting for SongSong vs. Nili game. Especially after Nili calling SongSong controversial like he-himself is the most innocent man in AOE world. Spicy matchup.

Not sure which one is worst, manipulating rating for once or being pro player, admin, tournament coordinator, fund allocator at same time for months.
 
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  • Germanydodageka

  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #12
oozkan said:
I don't even care about Platinium this time, just waiting for SongSong vs. Nili game. Especially after Nili calling SongSong controversial like he-himself is the most innocent man in AOE world. Spicy matchup.

Not sure which one is worst, manipulating rating for once or being pro player, admin, tournament coordinator, fund allocator at same time for months.
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If you don’t know which one is worse you really need you work on your value system
 
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  • Belgiumoozkan

  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #13
dodageka said:
If you don’t know which one is worse you really need you work on your value system
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I think my opinion is pretty clear at first paragraph, I was avoiding to mention it openly, but since you asked:

For me it is like one player using doping to enhance performance vs. Fifa executives organizing bribing scheme to benefit

where my vote goes to second one or Nili for sure about being worst. I hope SongSong destroys him.
 
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  • Unknownotw_Da

  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #14
oozkan said:
I think my opinion is pretty clear at first paragraph, I was avoiding to mention it openly, but since you asked:

For me it is like one player using doping to enhance performance vs. Fifa executives organizing bribing scheme to benefit

where my vote goes to second one or Nili for sure about being worst. I hope SongSong destroys him.
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I hope they destroy themself and I can take their resources afterwards
 
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  • UkraineSalzZ_fans

  • Jan 6, 2023
  • #15
T90Official said:
Yep, Silver has been going on all month and will conclude tomorrow with 9 names being promoted to fill the relegation spots from Gold.

Gold & Platinum will begin this week and play out similarly to how S1 did.
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So the Platinum League, Gold League and Silver League are equivalent to UEFA's Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League, that is, we will have group matches in the second silver league coming? I like this setting very much
 
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  • NorwayAkkal

  • Jan 6, 2023
  • #16
SalzZ_fans said:
So the Platinum League, Gold League and Silver League are equivalent to UEFA's Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League, that is, we will have group matches in the second silver league coming? I like this setting very much
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That is actually an apt description, as the prize pool and prestige is higher in the higher leagues. Nice!
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Jan 6, 2023
  • #17
(Spoilers)

Pretty wild start to S2 week 1 from promoted players. Ganji took a game from Jordan, Dracken took a game from Yo, and Running won 2-1 over Vinch who was Season 1’s champion!
 
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  • Unknownotw_Da

  • Jan 6, 2023
  • #18
Vinchester was to busy coaching memb, enjoying spain and running was born in arena
And is it really a suprise Jordan dropped a game? I think he played crossbow camels instead of trash as byzantins vs daut khmer knights crossbow. Im still mentally damaged of this decision
Is BacT really playing this tournament? I thought he is inactiv? Would be great to see him back (but full commitment return) when on his peak he plays very highskilled - semi active BacT is not that entertaining to watch, only for the fans of the opponent
 
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  • Latviaoakaoe

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #19
Hi everyone,
I have a bit of a problem, i love following AoE2 but I cannot for the life of me watch a series where I know the result already - feels pointless and boring. However, I work full time and can only watch recs on some evenings..
I love the idea of TTL, but it's super hard for me to find out what game is played when and especially casted where, or rather where I can find a VOD or YouTube video of it.
I understand this might be in Liquipedia, but it's super hard to navigate that without spoilers. Same for this thread, as I just found out.
@T90Official , is there any nice VOD collection or smth from your stream, or any other help in seeing a schedule for this event WITHOUT results already in? It's a pain in the butt already for normal tournaments (everything becomes a minefield), but for the TTL it's even harder due to the format with no 'clear' bracket for the League Phase.
Thanks for your work man,
Best
 
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  • Germanylonginator

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #20
oakaoe said:
Hi everyone,
I have a bit of a problem, i love following AoE2 but I cannot for the life of me watch a series where I know the result already - feels pointless and boring. However, I work full time and can only watch recs on some evenings..
I love the idea of TTL, but it's super hard for me to find out what game is played when and especially casted where, or rather where I can find a VOD or YouTube video of it.
I understand this might be in Liquipedia, but it's super hard to navigate that without spoilers. Same for this thread, as I just found out.
@T90Official , is there any nice VOD collection or smth from your stream, or any other help in seeing a schedule for this event WITHOUT results already in? It's a pain in the butt already for normal tournaments (everything becomes a minefield), but for the TTL it's even harder due to the format with no 'clear' bracket for the League Phase.
Thanks for your work man,
Best
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Here is the playlist for Season 2: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSU-esgAAEW3S_jyTrdfaWbYxDiBQjlJ
iirc he said he wont cast every match but it will be a pretty high number in the group stage.
For schedule, there will be fixed times for live casts. Monday, Thursday and Saturday and each day 16:00, 18:00 and 20:00 GMT. If there are not enough live games, it will be filled with rec casts, e.g. last thursday and saturday had 2 live casts and 2 rec casts.
If you want to have another source for schedule other than Liquipedia, you need to join the discord server or hope that someone uses the Aoezone calendar.
 
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  • HungaryPotkeny

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #21
oakaoe said:
especially casted where, or rather where I can find a VOD or YouTube video of it.
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Maybe dashboard can be helpful https://aoe2recs.com/dashboard/ (Go To "Casts", filter tournament.)

If you select the tournament you are interested in, you will get a lot of options for vods without a big indication for the winner, but of course works better in a group-stage than elimination, you will still see who are the players and how many games they played (not a big problem when its play-all, but thats not the usual setting).

It's not perfect, but probably better than liquipedia for avoiding spoilers.
 
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  • GermanyMollask

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #22
Potkeny said:
Maybe dashboard can be helpful https://aoe2recs.com/dashboard/ (Go To "Casts", filter tournament.)

If you select the tournament you are interested in, you will get a lot of options for vods without a big indication for the winner, but of course works better in a group-stage than elimination, you will still see who are the players and how many games they played (not a big problem when its play-all, but thats not the usual setting).

It's not perfect, but probably better than liquipedia for avoiding spoilers.
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In another forum, we had a thread were we collected VODs without spoilers, like direct links. Maybe we do something like this in here too? You could also ask for one in there?
 
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  • HungaryPotkeny

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #23
Mollask said:
In another forum, we had a thread were we collected VODs without spoilers, like direct links. Maybe we do something like this in here too? You could also ask for one in there?
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If someone wants to, I'm sure they can do it, even easier if using dashboard which provides some links (not every streamer is linked there, so you still need more manual work), but I have zero interest in that.
 
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  • United StatesT90Official

  • Jan 9, 2023
  • #24
oakaoe said:
Hi everyone,
I have a bit of a problem, i love following AoE2 but I cannot for the life of me watch a series where I know the result already - feels pointless and boring. However, I work full time and can only watch recs on some evenings..
I love the idea of TTL, but it's super hard for me to find out what game is played when and especially casted where, or rather where I can find a VOD or YouTube video of it.
I understand this might be in Liquipedia, but it's super hard to navigate that without spoilers. Same for this thread, as I just found out.
@T90Official , is there any nice VOD collection or smth from your stream, or any other help in seeing a schedule for this event WITHOUT results already in? It's a pain in the butt already for normal tournaments (everything becomes a minefield), but for the TTL it's even harder due to the format with no 'clear' bracket for the League Phase.
Thanks for your work man,
Best
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If you're hoping to watch TTL live, the group stage will always be at 16GMT/11amEST every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday until playoffs. No exceptions, there will always be games to cover and I'll be doing roughly four sets (if not more) each of those days for the next month. Some of these games will be live and many will be recs, but recs maintain the live feel because the results have not been shared or seen by anyone prior to the release of them.

If you're looking for stream vods (the fastest way to have access to casts) you go to fb.gg/T90Official on desktop and then scroll down below to see the vods. That area will include any videos that have been uploaded, but it's easy enough to see the vod titles as they'll have something related to Titans League and then have at it.

If you follow the TTL Season 2 Playlist on Youtube (or just my T90 Extras channel) you'll find every single play all 3 that I cover. It'll take a day or two for it to be uploaded after it's covered on stream, but they'll be coming fast enough and in 4k quality. In each video we edit in the results of the group I am covering in that video, but only show results that have already been covered/casted publicly, nothing that isn't already accessible (there may be some slight exceptions to this as there will inevitably be a few sets from platinum that I will not be able to cover.) So there will be instances where you may be catching up with a group, but you get to see the relevant group standings the players had when that series began.
If you're hoping to know specifically which set is happening when, that's always a bit last minute due to player scheduling but you can join the TTL discord. In announcements we post the schedule for the upcoming cast. For example at the time of writing this, it shows that Dark vs MbL will begin at 16GMT and Viper vs Sitaux will be at 18GMT.

I hope this helps with your questions!
 
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  • United StatesGiuseppe551

  • Jan 13, 2023
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This may seem like kind of a petty complaint, but I'm really not a fan of games being played out of order. To use group D as an example, Sitaux will almost certainly be fighting to stay in Platinum in that group which includes Viper/Tatoh/Villese. So for him to play Viper (round 5) out of order kind of takes away from the drama of it. Now his last round will be (or should in theory be) against Sebastian which does not carry the same weight as a Viper matchup.

In general scheduling has been a bit strange so far. 11/12 round 2 matches currently unplayed and unscheduled? Then on Saturday probably 4 matches will be scheduled same day and unless you're sitting there pressing refresh you won't know about them. Not the easiest thing to follow along with.
 
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