Right now the balance on Wololo Kingdoms is the same as in HD, so we depend on the HD developers to change the balance. I'm not saying they do a bad job, I believe we all heard @Cysion interview and we understand the way they do things. But the point is, maybe we should focus the balance in another direction, more focused on what the meta is, at the same time, Cysion's team is working on many other projects at the same time, and don't have AoE2 Balance as one of their main goals.
So, my idea is simple, create a selected group of players in work with @TriRem to develop a balance patch.
In my opinion this is how it should work:
- TriRem must be a part of it, since we all know that the only way for players to play is to make it rated, same way as 5.7 did. With no rating from the first days (RM 1vs1 and RM TG, and DM too) it won't work and will die the same way X-Patch did.
- It should be updated every few months, and in most games the balance should evolve and change with each patch, this way the game keeps changing small things, but at the same time being the same game. (Like LOL for example, champ x is broken, but now everyone is taking his counter, and then is nerf, while a counter to his counter is buffed.)
- It should focus on RM Arabia , but should take in consideration other maps and game modes (DM, not CBA)
- Tributes should be aswell considered (sling)
- For every patch there should be a list of problems to be solved before working on them, this list will be made public so all the members of the community can give their own ideas. Parallel a private topic should be opened were the committee decides wich change should be done and vote for them. The percentage of votes to be acepted is to be discussed, I would sugest around a 66% of agreement.
- Before each new patch comes out a writting should be made public were each problem is tasked and it's solution explained.
How to select the players for the committee?
- There should be a few conditions to be a member, I would say, have at least a decent amount of games on voobly (over 1000) either RM or DM, be an active player, known and respected member of the comunnity (Example, @Rayne is a well known player but he doesn't play anymore), as well the player must be able to comunicate easily on english, if a player meets those conditions and wants to apply he can. Players can promote themselves as why would they be suitable options for the balance committee.
- A public poll should be made were the 10-15 players with more votes gets selected. (I don't really like the idea of the pubic poll, that's why there should be at least 10+ users)
- After every patch is launched a member can leave the committee and new spots should be opened if considered.
Allright, the idea ends here, now I would like to make a call for all those user that could make this happen, first of all Trirem, he is key for the develop and without him this can't be done at all. Nevertheless the only way that I see that Trirem would be convinced is through the opinions of the players of this comunnity, I would like to read the opinions of those who have complained one place or another about WK balance, was it a stream, a game chat or just a random voobly talk. This would be the moment to fix those things we have complained about, just a few examples:
- Burmese 1vs1 being too strong, due to their combination of good eco and strong castle age push
- Korean trush being unstopable, since it has all the bonus and only gets better with time, having no counter but making towers.
- Malay karambit being hard to counter as it's almost infinite and cheap.
- Battle elephants (elite and non elite) dealing 100% of their damage as trample
- Almost all 'new' civs got BBC and redemption, while it was rare on the clasic ones
At the same time working on those civs that got forgotten and are too weak right now:
- Goths, having no eco bonus and a weak military one till they can make huskarl
- Vietnamese, which only gameplay option is to lame
- Sarracen, a huge tech tree and still a lame civ for a 1vs1
And finally let's not forget about the water play, there has been almost no competitive water play on voobly with WK.
If you want to see this problems and many others fixed now it's your time to step up and show it.
So, my idea is simple, create a selected group of players in work with @TriRem to develop a balance patch.
In my opinion this is how it should work:
- TriRem must be a part of it, since we all know that the only way for players to play is to make it rated, same way as 5.7 did. With no rating from the first days (RM 1vs1 and RM TG, and DM too) it won't work and will die the same way X-Patch did.
- It should be updated every few months, and in most games the balance should evolve and change with each patch, this way the game keeps changing small things, but at the same time being the same game. (Like LOL for example, champ x is broken, but now everyone is taking his counter, and then is nerf, while a counter to his counter is buffed.)
- It should focus on RM Arabia , but should take in consideration other maps and game modes (DM, not CBA)
- Tributes should be aswell considered (sling)
- For every patch there should be a list of problems to be solved before working on them, this list will be made public so all the members of the community can give their own ideas. Parallel a private topic should be opened were the committee decides wich change should be done and vote for them. The percentage of votes to be acepted is to be discussed, I would sugest around a 66% of agreement.
- Before each new patch comes out a writting should be made public were each problem is tasked and it's solution explained.
How to select the players for the committee?
- There should be a few conditions to be a member, I would say, have at least a decent amount of games on voobly (over 1000) either RM or DM, be an active player, known and respected member of the comunnity (Example, @Rayne is a well known player but he doesn't play anymore), as well the player must be able to comunicate easily on english, if a player meets those conditions and wants to apply he can. Players can promote themselves as why would they be suitable options for the balance committee.
- A public poll should be made were the 10-15 players with more votes gets selected. (I don't really like the idea of the pubic poll, that's why there should be at least 10+ users)
- After every patch is launched a member can leave the committee and new spots should be opened if considered.
Allright, the idea ends here, now I would like to make a call for all those user that could make this happen, first of all Trirem, he is key for the develop and without him this can't be done at all. Nevertheless the only way that I see that Trirem would be convinced is through the opinions of the players of this comunnity, I would like to read the opinions of those who have complained one place or another about WK balance, was it a stream, a game chat or just a random voobly talk. This would be the moment to fix those things we have complained about, just a few examples:
- Burmese 1vs1 being too strong, due to their combination of good eco and strong castle age push
- Korean trush being unstopable, since it has all the bonus and only gets better with time, having no counter but making towers.
- Malay karambit being hard to counter as it's almost infinite and cheap.
- Battle elephants (elite and non elite) dealing 100% of their damage as trample
- Almost all 'new' civs got BBC and redemption, while it was rare on the clasic ones
At the same time working on those civs that got forgotten and are too weak right now:
- Goths, having no eco bonus and a weak military one till they can make huskarl
- Vietnamese, which only gameplay option is to lame
- Sarracen, a huge tech tree and still a lame civ for a 1vs1
And finally let's not forget about the water play, there has been almost no competitive water play on voobly with WK.
If you want to see this problems and many others fixed now it's your time to step up and show it.
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