It's indeed a golden opportunity to show that he is still the best in that kind of job. I don't know the current level of these guys but I guess they're super rusty and well below 2k, if he manages, with them or other South Korea players (Im sure there is several more 1k8/1k9/2k ppl from that country) to reach a top 16 or even better with them he would definitely prove his power. :ugeek:Asking SY to invite an international team to the nations cup is ridiculous…… If kkab really wants to show his power in nations cup, he can just train Grunt, Nv and Koven for the Korean team.
Thatsit all those posts *edited by voobly* contained heavy amounts of insults i believe. These posts are getting edited because of
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Taff you are doing a great job and all, But i think the way you look is like "Im the authority here, I make seedings, I will decide whats gonna happen and you whiners (which i think they are the guys who wants to see AoC tourneys being conducted in more professional fashion) are in no position to say something that would change my opinion, just enjoy the tournament and be happy, enjoy the beauty of having tyrant sponsor. At least this is what i observe, no hard feelings...
So why i said these? Im one of the "whiners" , I saw Juan's post somewhere he suggested that you should listen some advices of top players (except TyranT of course lol) at least when considering the seedings which are really really crucial part of any sport or e-sport tournament.
Im not referring only KGB seeded above SY or SY should be in Warlords group or relatively less important details, Im talking about your approach, you being tough and bad guy. Maybe its not my place to say but i cant help myself
I know its impossible to make everyone happy and all. What happened is happened. My advise for future tournaments
Please stop writing good posts cause I don't want to agree with you.I think Viper explained it well...
If kkab sounds arrogant to you, maybe that's because he actually has achieved so much and he has these achievements under his belt that he can boast boast about. I don't know why people go into attacking him so much. If he sounded so disrespectful, some of the replies people made back to him sound much more disrespectful to me. If he said SY won by strategy instead of sheer strength, there is also an indirect compliment in that statement, that he admits to have been out-smarted by SY.
As for kkab's strength as a player, I haven't analyzed his performance that precisely but from what I have seen I can gather his playing strength level to be around 2200 (If lets say Viper and Jordan are 2500, and Daut 2400).
Now comes strategy. On a strategical ability point, kkab is probably on a slightly higher level than Viper or Jordan atleast in the not-so-explored settings. As the game evolved over the years, we have come to a point where strategy barely matters in 1v1 (it is virtually down to sheer playing strength and speed), which is why kkab cannot (again this is a postulate) quite compete with a 2k2+ 1v1 player (I remember reading an old comment from Viper that kkab would have made top6 in CoT with a lot of practise, which I completely disagree) on the vast majority of maps. As far as team games are concerned, the strategies have yet not been solved to anywhere near what is on a 1v1. This is why someone like kkab still has a good role to play in a clan like Tyrant where all players are a level higher than him playing strength-wise.
It wasn't secrecy, he (and other mods) explained in much older posts everyone about brackets/seedings and how they will be done. People just forget.Taff - most people know how much you've done for this community and I think certain people owe you an apology for some of the nasty remarks over WiC.
For the benefit of future competition and to put some trust back into the process would you reconsider your stance over the necessity for secrecy with brackets and seedings?
It wasn't secrecy said:Actually, if you look at the appropriate thread - Taff's response to questions from jinxed, Ra (maybe?) and a few others about how the double elimination was put together if memory serves me correctly was a picture of clown juggling his balls in the air (no laughing at the back there!).
Edit: Here's the link viewtopic.php?f=956&t=104413&hilit=seeding&start=280
It wasn't secrecy, he (and other mods) explained in much older posts everyone about brackets/seedings and how they will be done. People just forget.Taff - most people know how much you've done for this community and I think certain people owe you an apology for some of the nasty remarks over WiC.
For the benefit of future competition and to put some trust back into the process would you reconsider your stance over the necessity for secrecy with brackets and seedings?
Actually, if you look at the appropriate thread - Taff's response to questions from jinxed, Ra (maybe?) and a few others about how the double elimination was put together if memory serves me correctly was a picture of clown juggling his balls in the air (no laughing at the back there!).
Edit: Here's the link viewtopic.php?f=956&t=104413&hilit=seeding&start=280
glad at least one proxy user took that post seriously. lol pretty laughable that it even get's quoted.
The top right hand ball was legends and the one in the middle was SY, I got my 2 dogs trained to fetch the ones that were dropped, and if they had two teeth marks in they went down and if they had none they went up.
Can you quote that one too in a few months mr hide behind a pretty useless proxy man.
Some people will defend any type of behavior, no matter how egregious or absent-minded. Bottomline- SY could just as easily look at these games and think... "take out the DM, 1v1s and a couple fluke game from Paladin and we probably win 5-0 or 5-1." But do you see Mr. Yo spewing that in a passive-aggressive manner in spectator chats with 150+ players? Or coming to the forums and telling people about his "glory" and how Tyrant only won because some SY guys had a bad day and they were without one of their best players? It's a lot easier to just give credit where its due and move on. Proud of the SY guys for doing that... wish Tyrant would follow suit.
Andrew detectedTaff - Is there really any need to get personal? I only read that thread as I was confused myself how the double eliminators had been put together. I'm sorry if your paranoid about proxies and you have my consent to run as many IP checks on me as you like. I'd still love to know how the brackets were put together but if it's going to put you in a foul mood I think I'll leave it.
Taff - Is there really any need to get personal? I only read that thread as I was confused myself how the double eliminators had been put together. I'm sorry if your paranoid about proxies and you have my consent to run as many IP checks on me as you like. I'd still love to know how the brackets were put together but if it's going to put you in a foul mood I think I'll leave it.