Hidden Cup 3 Main Event is here!

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I'm excited to announce Hidden Cup 3 will be casted using an overlay created by the Capture Age team! The Hidden Cup 3 overlay was designed and built specifically for Hidden Cup 3 and I have been funding the development time. They are hoping to make a more generally usable version of the overlay available to others at some time in the future, but they cannot make any guarantees. I will be posting videos using this over the next few days and feedback is very much appreciated as we close in on Hidden Cup 3!

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Players​

ACCM
Antagonist
BacT
DauT
dogao
F1Re
Hera
Liereyy
MbL
Nicov
TaToH
TheMax
TheViper
Villese
Vivi
Yo

Spoiler: Hero Names

Charlemagne
King Sancho
Joan The Maid
Bad Neighbor
Leif Erikson
Princess Yodit
Kotyan Khan
Sheriff of Nottingham
Saladin
Friar Tuck
Alaric The Goth
Vlad Dracula
Henry The Lion
William The Conqueror
Charles Martel
Emperor in a Barrel

Bracket​

https://challonge.com/hiddencup3

You can place a prediction for which heroes you think will make it through and win here!

There will be a guessing competition on the final day where you can place your guesses as to which player is which Hero!!

Timeline​

Thursday 19th: 14gmt Ro16
Friday 20th: 14gmt Ro16
Saturday 21st: 14gmt Quarterfinals
Sunday 22nd: 14gmt Semifinals & Live Grand Final

Prizepool​

Total = $56,830

Main Event
1st = $13,560
2nd = $8,540
3rd/4th = $4,520
5th-8th = $2,260
9th-16th = $1,256

Qualifiers
Top 8 = $300
9th-16th = $200
17th-32nd = $100

Showmatches
5 showmatches for $200 each

Event Funding​

Microsoft = $50,000
Oracle455 = $1,000
Anonymous = $2,000
fathertres = $5,000
MattJustSalsa = $1,500
T90Official =1$ for each Twitch Subscriber (total subcount at conclusion of HC3)

Spoiler: Funding

From Microsoft's contribution $35,000 will be used towards the prizepool and the remaining amount will cover costs & promotions for the event. For HC2 I spent roughly $10,000 out of pocket and Microsoft's generosity will ensure all parties involved in HC3 get paid for their work without extreme stress on my part. I am contributing $1 per Twitch Subscriber at conclusion of HC3 (minimum of $5,000), meaning current and future supporters of the channel contribute towards the event.

 

[T90Official]

Here's a look at the Hidden Cup 3 Casting Overlay for those interested! I'm absolutely in love with it so far but any and all feedback would be great for myself and the CA team!

 

[RichNixon]

The overlay looks great!

I do wonder if it's a bit too 'big', though - a lot of the UI elements could be 50% smaller or so, and still be easily readable. The more space the game itself takes up the better, IMO. Alternatively, it's possible to make UI elements partially transparent, which could be good for the big grey section down the bottom left.

Only a small issue though - I'm super hyped for the event! Thanks so much for organising it.

 

[Grischa]

I think the things are as big as they are because phone viewers exist. But the map being a different black then the rest of the overlay triggers me.

Edit: also why is the left side higher the the right?

 

[RichNixon]

Edit: also why is the left side higher the the right?

I suspect this is due to a limitation of how the in-game overlay works - many panels aren't able to be resized.

 

[Grischa]

Just to illustrate I think this would be a good improvement. (without the distortion obviously)

 

[IRC_tomate]

Not sure about it but I hear goths are banned, here is my question: Is autoscout allowed or is it banned?

And also, too big too empty

 

[Elvaenor]

Superhyped about the tournament T90! Really looking forward to it, especially now that my plans for the weekend are canceled. Love the effort you put into this and it really shows.

About the overlay, I think the top of the overlay looks absolutely great, but the bottom UI is a bit hard on the eyes. The pure black surrounding the minimap makes it stand out a bit too much imo and I think it would be better if some sort of decoration is added Also the grey box is a bit too much but I guess you want your chat to display there?

See you on thursday, good luck already with the casting!

 

[Miral]

So great you guys managed to re-create Capture age for DE !

I agree with the previous comments about the size. And not a huge fan of having population with a line return
50
/60

Would have prefered 50/60, as simply as that

 

[Chainsaw]

I don't recall, but were the semis and finals live?

 

[robo]

I don't recall, but were the semis and finals live?

Just the final will be live.

 

[Syphax]

Which player will use which hero name???

 

[Grischa]

I give you clue the name of the tournament is Hidden Cup for a reason.

 

[Lopiger]

It looks great but i kind of miss markings of TCs and castles on the minimap...

 

[Grischa]

Actually I like this better. (If possible)
I don't think there is much upside in having a huge black box around the map.

 

[Ovenka]

Emperor in a Barrel is so Daut.

 

[Syphax]

I give you clue the name of the tournament is Hidden Cup for a reason.

Oh I thought it's because the prize is a cup shaped trophy which is hidden until the end...

Predictions: will Corona increaee viewership due to people sitting at home bored or decrease it because people aren't in the mood for aoe2?

 

[Elvaenor]

Actually I like this better. (If possible) View attachment 176142
I don't think there is much upside in having a huge black box around the map.

He said he still wanted to show some information on the sides of the minimap though.

 

[SaladEsc]

Here's a look at the Hidden Cup 3 Casting Overlay for those interested! I'm absolutely in love with it so far but any and all feedback would be great for myself and the CA team!

Awesome, big props to the guys for their hard work!

Did Microsoft contribute to the sponsoring the CA team, or was it from your own pocket of stream donations? A mix? If not, is it an absolutte embarrassment for Microsoft.

Will the twitch chat cover op the bottom right side of the overlay? Seems a bit distracting.
Edit: Looks like this is gonna be the case.


There is lots of wasted blank space on the bottom left when nothing is selected. Gives a very narrow view of the screen.


When something IS selected, the brown font on black background is not readable.



LOVE everything on the top half of the overlay. Perfectly executed, nice and intuitive to read.

 

[Skittle]

everything looks and sounds amazing, i am really looking forward to this tournament very good job @T90Official

 

[hallogallo]

Awesome to see CA comeback!
My two cents:
- Missing the name of the map somewhere
- Miss the forums and castles display on the minimap
- sometimes the text on the overlay is simply not readable, for example the uptimes here:

- What's the point of hiding the researched techs? I want to always have those on screen. Could appear smaller to not take too much space
- The whole overlay seems a bit busy, some icons look unnecessary to me. For example the white icons on very top left and right
- I would prefer to have the amount of ressources of each players closer to each other. Now if you want to compare ressources or compare researched techs your eye has to make big jumps back on forth it's a bit tiring. Same for ongoing researched techs and unit creation, to a lesser degree of annoyance. Of course it would mean redoing the whole overlay and I don't think it would be possible 2 days before the event, but yeah at least I gave you my opinion on it

Great job anyway. Thanks a lot CA

 

[Tempires]

Will the twitch chat cover op the bottom right side of the overlay? Seems a bit distracting.
View attachment 176144
LOVE everything on the top half of the overlay. Perfectly executed, nice and intuitive to read.

Actaully watching video may help.

 

[SaladEsc]

Actaully watching video may help.

Sorry I don't have that kind of time, the video is 45 min long. Would you kindly enlighten me?

 

[Crawsack]

Sorry I don't have that kind of time, the video is 45 min long. Would you kindly enlighten me?

Most of the info about capture age is in the first 5 min of the video. Just watch that.

 

[JohnJK]

Oh, that overlay is an improvement in DE, but almost a step back compared to the overlay in HC2, which was great. But I get it. I don't have any ideia of the technical difficulties of making something like that and can only thank the CA guys for messing around with it yet again.

My feedback:
- I really like the resources on the top of the screen for both palyers. Showing what's being researched in writing and % is also great.
- somethimes the screen looks really crowded, taking attention away from the game, mostly because the fonts used are pretty big.
- please make sure there's good constrast so things are easily readable. Red writing against dark gray background (on the bottom overlay) doesn't make things really clear when watching a couple of meters away from the monitor or from different angles. It's not that bad, but I remember this was a bit of a problem in NAC3.