http://www.voobly.com/profile/view/4314Okay I'm gonna give my opinion for the first time ever.
Joined: Oct 07, 2013
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so funny
Whatever, how would that make my point invalid?Profile created on:
2 July 2007
http://www.voobly.com/profile/view/4314Okay I'm gonna give my opinion for the first time ever.
Joined: Oct 07, 2013
11
so funny
Whatever, how would that make my point invalid?Profile created on:
2 July 2007
I admit that I used to Fast 's account to play some games before tourney but i have to clarify that i didn't use his account to play on the tournament. I also admit that was my mistake while participating in a professional tournament without preparing enough language skill as well as reading the rule. So, i don't want anyone to protect me because it was all my fault. Even though i feel that the decision from the admin was kinda rough but I respect it because i don't want to ruin the tournament that they have sacrificed their time and money for it. 500$ maybe a treasure to me ( if i can get in to top 8) but the prestige of me and VNS community is the most important thing that i concern and want to protect ops: . I don't want post here so much cause i don't want to have any endless arguments that can cause bad reputation.Wow Bacg is such a GREAT guy for admitting to playing fast's nick up. I kind of want to have his baby
Just like fayt said, if we're to assume that fast is really a 19-2k player why would he need Bacg to play his rate up?
Has it occurred to anyone else that Bacg is so gracefully accepting the DQ because he doesn't want people to push further and find out he was the one who beat emin?
The other part to this: Edie and emin plz bring tissues next tourney
Open your eyes and watch my recs carefully. It's clearly that bac didn't play for me in this tournament.+1_Andrew said:I do have a major issue with Voobly due to what ostensibly looks like a clear violation of their own privacy policy in not only this case but the Dziam case, too. What's the impetus for these IP checks? Unexpected results or vague accusations from players who were knocked out of the tournament? Voobly privacy policy in regards to obtaining information about players is as follows on their ToS page:
Any personal information required by Voobly to verify identification may be asked to be revealed. It is the user's right to refuse to share such information at his or her discretion upon gaining access or services on our website.
I kinda doubt this rule was adhered to by Voobly admins/mods not only in this instance but the Dziam instance as well. Were Dziam and Bacgio/Fast asked prior to whether an IP check could be ran on their accounts? If so, and they acquiesced, then I take back this post... but again I doubt that was the case.
That type of invasion of privacy seems to be developing into a pattern and may be a result of Voobly and AoCZone admins working in such close conjunction. Voobly mods/admins shouldn't be running IP checks/searches at the behest of a few players who make up the admin staff on AoCZone... there has to be some separation there. I feel like Voobly has a responsibility to maintain the privacy of its players (and I consider IP address to be a part of that privacy), especially since their own Terms of Service pretty much ensures they will do just that.
Either Voobly needs to amend its ToS to make players aware of the fact that they'll be subject to these random IP checks and other identity verification processes if they come under any suspicion from the community at-large (warranted or not), or maybe they need to start maintaining the privacy of their users like they guarantee in the first place.
First intelligent post by Andrew 11. Voobly operation like China, except not China. Probably illegal.
Of course Bacgioifro smurf during CoT. Not stop after practice. Fast not beat Emin. Bacgioifro beat Emin. No one want say this but obvious.
I sad for Bacgioifro. He throw away chance of making $. Now he is cheater. I hope he try extra much for next tournament.
you don't know anything about me, plz don't say like u know me exactly.Common, if you know what the admins meant by sayingzz... Bac didnt smurf during CoT please read things clearly..
We all know that there was no way to get the evidence of bacg's smurfing for fast, unless bacg admits by himself, which if he does, would disable his qualification for the FUTURE TOURNAMENTS. However, it's quite clear that if VNS_fast, aka VNS_Teamgame could defeat Fox 3:1 by himself, he could have boosted his own rate up to 2k by himself. why would he bother asking bacgio to do the dirty work for him? Let me remind you of the real rate of VNS_Teamgame, prior to his switching to VNS_fast and having bacgio boosted his rating for him. It was a 1.7k player.Not only does this displace seeds and take a spot away from a player who has worked hard to achieve their rating, it also raises suspicions of the potential for further manipulation in the tournament by bacgioifro_o.
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http://www.voobly.com/profile/view/17073/Ratings
Believe it or not, what Brunin said was a simple fact.
The rule admins cited was a stupid one, but what they did wasn't.There goes what cannot be said:
They think Bacg smurfed for FasT but they cannot prove.
They Find a way to get Bacg out with a stupid rule.
Bacg really smurfed and is scared of not being allowed to play future tourneys.
It is so typical of happening on tourneys.
Which should be understandable as we cannot publish private conversations with players, nor IP's to the public. However I can show you what was the first cause of suspicion, something that was visible to all of us, which was rated games played in public on Voobly:one thing that bothers me is that evidence is not released when the decision was made. I dont necessarily mean any foul play but it would substantially reduce unnecessary arguments based on false assumptions if the evidence comes into light ...
Yes, stop blaming him, especially Chinese guys.We are not saying bacgioifro played in the tourney for FasT. This is a result of the preceding days leading up to the tourney. He is innocent of smurfing during CoT as far as all we know. He does not deserve any added anger from people thinking he played for FasT in the tourney itself.
I also want to say one thing on a personal level about bac. He admitted this right away. And I think that is important testament to his character. Everyone in this community has made a mistake in one area of life or another. It takes a strong man to admit to something knowing there can be punishment to follow.
The situation is unfortunate, but as a person, I am impressed to see how he handled it. One crisis of character does not define a person forever.
Well this really seems so fishy like other people stated, and sorry if i didn't read tru all the pages, but if this question got answered i would like to know...
¿Why Fast would need Bacgio to up his rating if Fast is a 2k player?
I think that's the main question and that's what also makes me think there is lot more behind than whats being said...
Well this really seems so fishy like other people stated, and sorry if i didn't read tru all the pages, but if this question got answered i would like to know...
¿Why Fast would need Bacgio to up his rating if Fast is a 2k player?
I think that's the main question and that's what also makes me think there is lot more behind than whats being said...
Please change your flag from Vietnam to China. You are Viet fake, I swear you are a china guy! Thanks!rules are rules. bacgio used the nick for up rating to get high seed. i cant believe vns fast still have balls to come here and saying bs... why he didnt play himself then if he is a 2k? that is shame on him still didnt apologize from admins and community. bacgio is helped his friend and broke rules but we still can forgive him but vns fast is the real one who CHEATed in tournament. i wish admins let forgive bacgioa but vns fast should be banned from future tournaments too. and the other vns guys blaming emin to let reveal of that cheat in tournament. thanks to him pointed out that cheat