Which?????Anyone want to humor me and guess which team was responsible for those delays?
Which?????Anyone want to humor me and guess which team was responsible for those delays?
Players need tournament organisers a lot more than TOs need players. There will always be more players. Players are one of most replaceable assets in sport. Age of Empires is slightly special because of the small player pool, but that's not really my point.
Event organisers (good ones) are incredibly hard to find. Take a look at sports again, events fall away all the time, not because of lack of players/entrants it's usually due to the TO not being able to fulfil duties anymore then pulling out.
Yes! Let's trust the players! Let the players make their own tournament. I'm sure they will love making a handbook (if they even bother to), dealing with scheduling issues, dealing with communication issues, giving ALs to their peers. I'm sure you will find many volunteers! /s
Do you really believe this or are you just stirring the pot? If the top 16 players quit tomorrow and said they're not playing RBW do you really think fans would tune in? Would Sebastian2002 vs. Ubetnir really draw the same audience as Mbl vs. Jordan? I wouldn't care about that at all and I wouldn't watch one minute of it. And it's the same in real sports, household names matter a ton.Players need tournament organisers a lot more than TOs need players. There will always be more players. Players are one of most replaceable assets in sport.
Do you really believe this or are you just stirring the pot? If the top 16 players quit tomorrow and said they're not playing RBW do you really think fans would tune in? Would Sebastian2002 vs. Ubetnir really draw the same audience as Mbl vs. Jordan? I wouldn't care about that at all and I wouldn't watch one minute of it. And it's the same in real sports, household names matter a ton.
It's not...but it illustrates how dumb it is to say that players are replaceable and need TOs more than TOs need players.How is the top 16 walking away even a likely hypothetical?
Who the **** cares lol$300 is not a lot either to Memb or to MBL.
But we're getting mighty close to losing MBL over this. I don't think we'd lose Memb if that punishment never got handed out.
I feel like we're making a huge mistake here over a petty amount of money. We're still just recovering from the AoE4 fiasco and now we're risking pissing off a top player and possibly more (his team mates).
do you understand what a hypothetical is? have you ever had a discussion where an assumption was made or a scenario imagined for the sake of a larger point?How is the top 16 walking away even a likely hypothetical?
People retire at different times. Lots of players have walked over the years. There will always be different and new players that fill voids.
do you understand what a hypothetical is? have you ever had a discussion where an assumption was made or a scenario imagined for the sake of a larger point?
What professional sport tolerates players’ violations of media rules or accusations against organizers? The players would be fined or sanctioned.$300 is not a lot either to Memb or to MBL.
But we're getting mighty close to losing MBL over this. I don't think we'd lose Memb if that punishment never got handed out.
I feel like we're making a huge mistake here over a petty amount of money. We're still just recovering from the AoE4 fiasco and now we're risking pissing off a top player and possibly more (his team mates).
Nili is more of Tournament Organizer than a player (don't get angry, Nili >.< )Nili would gladly AL the **** out of Daut xd
Never bow to bullies.$300 is not a lot either to Memb or to MBL.
But we're getting mighty close to losing MBL over this. I don't think we'd lose Memb if that punishment never got handed out.
I feel like we're making a huge mistake here over a petty amount of money. We're still just recovering from the AoE4 fiasco and now we're risking pissing off a top player and possibly more (his team mates).
If we are this close to "losing" mbl then he's so far out the door already that there's nothing we could do anyway. No need pandering to poor behavior just because someone has a Bigger Number Rating in the video game.$300 is not a lot either to Memb or to MBL.
But we're getting mighty close to losing MBL over this. I don't think we'd lose Memb if that punishment never got handed out.
I feel like we're making a huge mistake here over a petty amount of money. We're still just recovering from the AoE4 fiasco and now we're risking pissing off a top player and possibly more (his team mates).
Who cares about player interview, who cares about players webcam, we are here to enjoy the game and watch good games, the less interference from anyone else is what most people want.
Nah, what is weird is the entire overblown tantrum. It's 3% FFS.The people coming at the players and at MBL have a weird view to me. The players are what make the experience fun for the casual fans. MBL literally carried the torch for AoE2 during the time everyone else was playing AoE4. I think a warning to MBL and aM would have been enough. A monetary fine is over the top and 3% isn’t even stated in the rules.
Wrong take.This is just like football when the refferee gives a penalty kick that didn’t exist, refferee wants to take the spotlight more than the players, and that should never be a thing. admins should not have any powers, just stfu and do your job. Aoe is a huge game and it is based on players, not admins. Who cares about player interview, who cares about players webcam, we are here to enjoy the game and watch good games, the less interference from anyone else is what most people want.
memb and admins should apologize and give the winning team the money they deserved for winning the games.
I can't tell if this is satire anymore. MBL is one of my favorites but if we're "might close" to losing him over what you could at worst describe as a slightly harsh fine, then he had no future in aoe whatsoever anyway.$300 is not a lot either to Memb or to MBL.
But we're getting mighty close to losing MBL over this. I don't think we'd lose Memb if that punishment never got handed out.
I feel like we're making a huge mistake here over a petty amount of money. We're still just recovering from the AoE4 fiasco and now we're risking pissing off a top player and possibly more (his team mates).
Tell me you weren't here without actually saying it. Or if you were, you didn't pay attention whatsoever.long post
Such statement is just outright wrong. We only have a couple of dedicated casters. There's less of them than there are pro players. Yes, Viper brings in a lot of fans and you can see that by view numbers when he drops out of a tournament but even when he doesn't show up, thousands of people still watch the games. Because large number of us are here for good, quality, entertaining games, doesn't matter who participates in those. Hell, quite often "best game of the tournament/year" doesn't even include Viper or liereyy, like for example the widely renowned MbL vs Capoch."If Memb didn't cast, someone else would. But if Viper didn't play, no one would watch, no matter who casts."
just because t90 said something doesn't mean it's actually true, lol. T90's claim: "Viper left the game for a year right after I started"As T90 already mentioned in this thread, Viper disappeared from the scene shortly after T90 started making content. Didn't matter much. In fact, T90's most explosive growth happened AFTER he stopped focusing on pro players and instead directed his attention to community games and lower ELOs. That's directly disproving all of your arguments.