I can already hear MBL screamingif you have time it would be really fun to hear some team communication, maybe you could release some shorts from it after a team is eliminated or after the finals. Like how a team talks when the game is intense and so on
There is a lot of potential as a matter of fact. Would love to do a studio show afterwards with players pov and audio of a game winning onager shot, player feedback upon hearing pre game strategy talk that didn’t work out. “Drive to survive”-style storytellingI can already hear MBL screaming
"tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim"
xDDDD
I would guess he then would give the Admins a reason as to why he doesn't want to activate the Facecam.Imagine if mYI team only had 3 players with Daniel being the 3rd player, and they were not allowed to play unless Daniel switched on cam, and imagine them getting an AL because of that.
Then we would get an audio from 2017“Drive to survive”-style storytelling
GL definitely gets special treatment ofc. Not having GL members will cause more backlash and viewership issues. So, memb took the right decision then. However, for little dannyboy, rules apply and apply strict. Sad.. If i'm correct in previous tournament Memb did let Jordan to not have cam, due he had covid and felt bad
There is a lot of potential as a matter of fact. Would love to do a studio show afterwards with players pov and audio of a game winning onager shot, player feedback upon hearing pre game strategy talk that didn’t work out. “Drive to survive”-style storytelling
Or maybe it is because he gave a reason for not wanting to use a cam? But as an admin you can't accept "no I won't follow this rule, I don't say why". It makes the cam optional for everyone from that point on.GL definitely gets special treatment ofc. Not having GL members will cause more backlash and viewership issues. So, memb took the right decision then. However, for little dannyboy, rules apply and apply strict. Sad.
Yeah, people just being completely dumb stating such nonsense. Jordan even came to winner's interview and was obviously sick. This situation with Dani was more like "well if you don't help us to help you, we can't do much".Or maybe it is because he gave a reason for not wanting to use a cam? But as an admin you can't accept "no I won't follow this rule, I don't say why". It makes the cam optional for everyone from that point on.
Fair enough, didn’t think of that. I might have misunderstood but I thought the original idea was to broadcast some ingame sound this tournament. Memb did it in a break between games during the first matchup, but maybe they realizes it could spoil strategies.I see the idea of listening in in people's team talks has come up again.
Though I'm not an tournament organiser, or admin, and thus do not really have any say in it, I'm heavily opposed to listening of the teams, for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, privacy reasons, I think in game communication isn't really a thing which should just be listened in by the tournament organisers if the players do not want to. I wouldn't want it, but letting the possibility to play in such a tournament slip for such a reason isn't something most people would want. One could argue that facecams fall in a similar category. And we can already see some of the problems that brings up. Sharing conversation from people goes a step further, and one too far in my opinion.
A second reason is the unfair disadvantage it gives teams who communicate in English. Aside from being an almost completely mechanic when spying on Suomi, WWP or one of the Spanish speaking teams, it pretty much forces the English-speaking teams to remain silent about their strategies. Since the games are live, and their opponents may be watching, and now apparantly can listen to their strategy discussions as well? Decisionmaking is a very important part of the game, and discovering hints as to what strategies certain teams prepared is a large advantage.
Pretty much sums up my views on this as well.Tbh i found the cams to be a bit annoying as they take up a lot of space. It's cool for 1v1 but TGs already have so much going on both in game and on the screen that i pretty much never pay attention to the cams.
This does not mean that it is closed, forgotten and ignored. There are records of these things - and while we did not take any immediate action then, there are more indirect solutions happening, such as recorded games or, in most cases, a reasonable spectator and stream delay.
Agree, I think there shouldn’t be any S-Tier tournament (except LANs with a controlled environment) that have at least 2-3 minutes spec and/or stream delay. Imo that is something we should have as a general rule for all major tournaments (maybe enforceable through taking Microsoft money) and hopefully smaller tournaments will follow then as wellWhy is it that when people are concerned with competitive integrity, it is said that tournaments are to have "reasonable spectator and stream delay," but when it comes to the major tournaments that are actually hosted, they have 0 spectator delay, as per the rules, and, correct me if I'm wrong, 0 stream delay as well?
Agree, I think there shouldn’t be any S-Tier tournament (except LANs with a controlled environment) that have at least 2-3 minutes spec and/or stream delay. Imo that is something we should have as a general rule for all major tournaments (maybe enforceable through taking Microsoft money) and hopefully smaller tournaments will follow then as well
And we have our first candidate for the most stupid post in 2022. you got my vote!GL definitely gets special treatment ofc. Not having GL members will cause more backlash and viewership issues. So, memb took the right decision then. However, for little dannyboy, rules apply and apply strict. Sad.
I think the vast majority of large events have a spectator delay. It primarily depends on the requirements of the hosts and sponsors of tournaments and whether they want to include such requirements. There's no doubt that spectator delay and stream delay are excellent tools, but sometimes other things are also prioritised, and other means of anti-cheat are utilised.Why is it that when people are concerned with competitive integrity, it is said that tournaments are to have "reasonable spectator and stream delay," but when it comes to the major tournaments that are actually hosted, they have 0 spectator delay, as per the rules, and, correct me if I'm wrong, 0 stream delay as well?
There's no doubt that spectator delay and stream delay are excellent tools, but sometimes other things are also prioritised, and other means of anti-cheat are utilised.