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they said that they can't make widescreen (made with stolen source code) free for all because that can add some problems with cheats (cheap excuse). A few hours after the offical announce of the remastered version of AoC aviable via steam, they released for free 11
they said that they can't make widescreen (made with stolen source code) free for all because that can add some problems with cheats (cheap excuse). A few hours after the offical announce of the remastered version of AoC aviable via steam, they released for free 11
+1, it's so obvious that it even hurts...
Firstly, I think you need to pick up a dictionary and read the definition of hypocrite. Or alternatively explain what you see as hypocrisy there.they said that they can't make widescreen (made with stolen source code) free for all because that can add some problems with cheats (cheap excuse). A few hours after the offical announce of the remastered version of AoC aviable via steam, they released for free 11
HYPOCRITES!!!
See you on steam guys!
But I say all this under the assumption you will just think I am lying because Voobly is evil in your eyes. Every one of our staff members puts in far more time than they will ever get back in any form of rewards other than in thanks from the community. Sure Elusive gets to keep the profits but they are not even close to the amount he would be making elsewhere, so to suggest he is there for the money is ludicrous. I realise you expect him to put in long skilled hours for free, but I think that is what is hypocritical here considering how you were not willing to purchase a premium account.
Secondly, Read the topic which this topic links to. The title literally says "A/C update: unrestricted widescreen, AoFE ratings, and more". The topic itself explains how we spent time working on the anticheat so that the widescreen support can be made free. We did not steal any code, how ever we did look at it to see how it was done and used that knowledge for our own. As you can see our widescreen support has gone much further than the VEG mod that you accuse us of stealing.
Thirdly, it was never a cheap excuse. I even explained to people exactly how people could exploit our anticheat with our previous method. Although I do admit the release of AoE 2 HD did have something to do with it becoming free
But I say all this under the assumption you will just think I am lying because Voobly is evil in your eyes. Every one of our staff members puts in far more time than they will ever get back in any form of rewards other than in thanks from the community. Sure Elusive gets to keep the profits but they are not even close to the amount he would be making elsewhere, so to suggest he is there for the money is ludicrous. I realise you expect him to put in long skilled hours for free, but I think that is what is hypocritical here considering how you were not willing to purchase a premium account.
Yeah I got that wrong, my bad. As for if the code was directly taken from it or used as a guide to make a similar result - like you I would only be speculating.First of all VEG is the author of the windows mode, no the widescreen patch, the widescreen patch was made by brokenbart (viewtopic.php?f=101&t=25504), from there voobly stole the code (released under gpl v2).
Okay so what our system did was create a new unique exe for each player based on their resolution settings. What this meant was we could not verify their exe file as being unchanged (because it was). Once of the core aspects of our anticheat is checking to make sure the users game files have not been modified.I never found that explain that u are talking about (fell free to share the link), personally i don't see how add a few checks for the modified exe's require so much work, and i don't see how widescreen patch can affect whatever u did in your anticheat that detect memory injection.
Yeah that actually sounds fair enough. While I will continue to insist that the widescreen was premium only for anticheat reasons, I can understand how it looks and that you will likely never believe that. Not much else I can do to prove that but I am open to suggestions if you have some ideas as to how I could go about doing that.Voobly is not evil to my eyes, actually i think is a good server, but i will never be agree in what you/your dev team with the widescreen patch. In my eyes, that was a BIG mistake. And yes, it was "funny" that voobly released that "super feature for free" after the announce of AoE HD. Without AoE HD, probably voobly never released that essential feature like widesceen for free (using the same cheap excuse about the anticheat), so...i'm the hater or you are the hypocrite?
How ever I do still think you are a hypocrite for expecting Elusive to contribute all his time for free while you are not willing to contribute yourself. I would be happy to admit that I am one if you could be more specific as to why you think I am one - I currently don't know what you are referring to when you say I am one.
How ever I do still think you are a hypocrite for expecting Elusive to contribute all his time for free while you are not willing to contribute yourself. I would be happy to admit that I am one if you could be more specific as to why you think I am one - I currently don't know what you are referring to when you say I am one.
i made my contributions to the community in the past, is true that didn't have the success that i was expecting, but neverless i did it. I never say that i was expecting Elusive work for free, i'm developer too, i know what means live of YOUR work....YOUR work, no others work. Widescreen patch was made by brokenkart, elusive just take the code and plugged into voobly with a few tweaks here and there, and sell it into silver/gold accounts.
How ever I do still think you are a hypocrite for expecting Elusive to contribute all his time for free while you are not willing to contribute yourself. I would be happy to admit that I am one if you could be more specific as to why you think I am one - I currently don't know what you are referring to when you say I am one.
i made my contributions to the community in the past, is true that didn't have the success that i was expecting, but neverless i did it. I never say that i was expecting Elusive work for free, i'm developer too, i know what means live of YOUR work....YOUR work, no others work. Widescreen patch was made by brokenkart, elusive just take the code and plugged into voobly with a few tweaks here and there, and sell it into silver/gold accounts.
Your contribution pales in comparison to what the voobly heads have done. Just another example of an ungreatful person in the aoe community. Make your own "voobly", spend your own money, develop your own anticheat etc etc and then maybe you might actually respect what the crew has done for aoc. Just cuz u didn't get widescreen for free for a little while. Ha. What's ironic is, you'd rather drop 20 bucks on steam, a site only concerned with making $ off a self sufficient community that has survived because of people like torm n crew, then buy a premium membership.
Okay so what our system did was create a new unique exe for each player based on their resolution settings. What this meant was we could not verify their exe file as being unchanged (because it was). Once of the core aspects of our anticheat is checking to make sure the users game files have not been modified.