WiC Round Robin Stage R1 SY A (vs) Nadya's Boys

[danhde]

I THINK LAVIE IS Totally better than Lojza and mentalist

 

[cosw69]

gogo SY

 

[Sieter]

gj.1.obviously SY-A has done a lot of secrit trainings.but considering only SY-B and SY-SY are on hand ,I cant imagine what height can SY-A reach if SYers are trained by Kkab.

lol everyone knows that kkab, the grand master of teamgame, only stacks with 2.6k players. Am I the only one who was wondering how far he could go if he teamed up with 2k players, like Tammy does in PoZ in every tournament? Can he lead a 2k team to reach the level of PoZ?

I am surprised to see that SY A lost the 1v1 games against Nadya's Boys. SY is nowhere near Tyrants with this level of individual skills.

U have anwser. WCL 7.
http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=426&t=69557

kkab teamed up with guys who dont played almost 8-10 years. And when they start playing kkab, daut, halen, grunt, they are above 1800 rated and many times losse even vs low rated teams like 1750, just search it in aoczone. 6-8 months later he make 2k4 team who killed the best players from new generation with score 5-2, people just say its unbelievable, beat the favorite team RVK ( TheViper,Jordan,RiuT,Dogao).. Whats better tyrants lost only 1x1 games, every team game they get it, vs all top players.
Just imagine what mean the best leader/capitan in team. Not only in this game, even in many wars in past. Kkab is the genious to be a leader. Every team needs one, Paladin its also very good my number 2, like Ding in PoZ, like Dziamdziak in polish team many years ago, but far from what i saw in kkabs games. Anyway i think SY have the chance to beat Legends, i give it 30%/70%, with some luck, hope die last.
i talking mad? don't think so.

 

[JUDAS]

gj.1.obviously SY-A has done a lot of secrit trainings.but considering only SY-B and SY-SY are on hand ,I cant imagine what height can SY-A reach if SYers are trained by Kkab.

lol everyone knows that kkab, the grand master of teamgame, only stacks with 2.6k players. Am I the only one who was wondering how far he could go if he teamed up with 2k players, like Tammy does in PoZ in every tournament? Can he lead a 2k team to reach the level of PoZ?

I am surprised to see that SY A lost the 1v1 games against Nadya's Boys. SY is nowhere near Tyrants with this level of individual skills.

U have anwser. WCL 7.
http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=426&t=69557

kkab teamed up with guys who dont played almost 8-10 years. And when they start playing kkab, daut, halen, grunt, they are above 1800 rated and many times losse even vs low rated teams like 1750, just search it in aoczone. 6-8 months later he make 2k4 team who killed the best players from new generation with score 5-2, people just say its unbelievable, beat the favorite team RVK ( TheViper,Jordan,RiuT,Dogao).. Whats better tyrants lost only 1x1 games, every team game they get it, vs all top players.
Just imagine what mean the best leader/capitan in team. Not only in this game, even in many wars in past. Kkab is the genious to be a leader. Every team needs one, Paladin its also very good my number 2, like Ding in PoZ, like Dziamdziak in polish team many years ago, but far from what i saw in kkabs games. Anyway i think SY have the chance to beat Legends, i give it 30%/70%, with some luck, hope die last.
i talking mad? don't think so.

Tell me what have SY to beat Tyrants? DM Team a: Not, Teamwork: Not, Best 1v1 players: Not, knowledge of the maps: Not, practice: Not.

 

[HighFlyer]

@ tyrant monopolizing training time or w/e

If the other teams cared enough they too could practice as Tyrant does.

The fact that they dont should not be blamed upon tyrant. the fact that daily you WILL ALWAYS see tyrant practicing 4v4 games from 10 to 13 gmt shows that they are willing to work for it.

As far as I can tell they are the only teams that want it enough to be willing to sacrifice for it.

Don't blame them for being better than everyone else when they work their asses off to make sure they are.

I personally am looking forward to the finals. if it is another tyrants wars all the better. These guys guys deserve it. and if SY can make the finals then they to deserve it.

I personal am expecting an all tyrant finals. Why? because they want it more and are willing to do everything they can to make sure it happens.

 

[Fall]

Having a 2k4 sister team dedicated to practicing with you and you alone also helps

 

[HighFlyer]

Having a 2k4 sister team dedicated to practicing with you and you alone also helps

Competently ignoring the fact that this sister team of 2k4 players have all worked their asses off to get that good in the first place.

Dont hate them bc you arent skilled enough to be them....

 

[Jupe]

Having a 2k4 sister team dedicated to practicing with you and you alone also helps

Competently ignoring the fact that this sister team of 2k4 players have all worked their asses off to get that good in the first place.

Dont hate them bc you arent skilled enough to be them....

I don't think he meant it as an insult...
It's best to have sister team to practise with as you won't be spoiling strats and such (in LoL example most korea teams have sister teams to train with and eventually won world champions, like SKT and Samsung.. who got #1 and #3...)

 

[Funito]

Having a 2k4 sister team dedicated to practicing with you and you alone also helps

Competently ignoring the fact that this sister team of 2k4 players have all worked their asses off to get that good in the first place.

Dont hate them bc you arent skilled enough to be them....

I don't think he meant it as an insult...
It's best to have sister team to practise with as you won't be spoiling starts and such (in LoL example most korea teams have sister teams to train with and eventually won world champions, like SKT and Samsung.. who got #1 and #3...)

Thats part of the problem, other teams are forced to train against teams not as good as Tyrant and forced to rec the games.

 

[nimanoe]

KGB and L_Clan should just organise a few friendly games between them to train, it would help them both so much

 

[_Andrew]

KGB and L_Clan should just organise a few friendly games between them to train, it would help them both so much

KGB is basically a Tyrant farm team.

And the monopolization of training is one of the biggest issues I have with Tyrant. There's what, like ~25 2k2+ players, and all of a sudden 8 of them are out of circulation for any type of TGs... that's why you see the L Clan guys sitting in rooms by themselves for hours on end, same with poZ and it seems the VNS guys don't even bother to try.

And yeah, it obviously helps both Tyrant teams tremendously, but its detrimental to the overall quality of the tournament games as the other teams rarely get the practice/training that they'd like as a result.

 

[chavster]

KGB and L_Clan should just organise a few friendly games between them to train, it would help them both so much

KGB is basically a Tyrant farm team.

And the monopolization of training is one of the biggest issues I have with Tyrant. There's what, like ~25 2k2+ players, and all of a sudden 8 of them are out of circulation for any type of TGs... that's why you see the L Clan guys sitting in rooms by themselves for hours on end, same with poZ and it seems the VNS guys don't even bother to try.

And yeah, it obviously helps both Tyrant teams tremendously, but its detrimental to the overall quality of the tournament games as the other teams rarely get the practice/training that they'd like as a result.

Guess they got the desired effect!

Anyways- I'm done.. I simply posted my opinion on the seeds. Never accused anyone of cheating or being bribed... thought most of us were adults here and could stand to take a bit of criticism. Guess not. And I stand by everything I said. I've supported this tournament through casting, writing reviews, doing a 2-hour long podcast with Taff and Katsuni to help promote the Duel Stage, agreed to serve on the Recorded Games committee, etc... also supported a couple of the more prominent players financially behind the scenes. So I don't see how I deserve any blame for this decision. But if it makes you feel better and gives you a scapegoat- by all means.

Anyways, I won't be posting here anymore or involved in the community on any level beyond playing games on Voobly every now and then. Hope you guys get it figured out and can move things along. Adios.

 

[aocfun]

KGB and L_Clan should just organise a few friendly games between them to train, it would help them both so much

KGB is basically a Tyrant farm team.

And the monopolization of training is one of the biggest issues I have with Tyrant. There's what, like ~25 2k2+ players, and all of a sudden 8 of them are out of circulation for any type of TGs... that's why you see the L Clan guys sitting in rooms by themselves for hours on end, same with poZ and it seems the VNS guys don't even bother to try.

And yeah, it obviously helps both Tyrant teams tremendously, but its detrimental to the overall quality of the tournament games as the other teams rarely get the practice/training that they'd like as a result.

+1

 

[HighFlyer]

And the monopolization of training is one of the biggest issues I have with Tyrant.

This is such a stupid thing to say I dont even know where to start....

Alright, Firstly, you are completely ignoring the time zone difference, Most TyRanT players AREN'T EVEN ONLINE when teams like L Clan and KGB are. Obviously though that clearly is irrelevant too, sleep clearly has no relevant place in the discussion when TyRanT is to blame.

Secondly,

KGB is basically a Tyrant farm team.

Go **** yourself.

There's what, like ~25 2k2+ players, and all of a sudden 8 of them are out of circulation for any type of TGs... that's why you see the L Clan guys sitting in rooms by themselves for hours on end, same with poZ and it seems the VNS guys don't even bother to try.

And yeah, it obviously helps both Tyrant teams tremendously, but its detrimental to the overall quality of the tournament games as the other teams rarely get the practice/training that they'd like as a result.

Now given that you posted, the obvious blind spots and bigotry towards anything Tryant doesn't really surprise me. But just for anyone who might think what you post has any merit...

I will once again point out the obvious. All of these Teams can practice with someone else.... POZ VNS POJ SY A B are all in a very similar time zone very little is stopping them for practicing with each other other than no desire to.

You cannot blame Tyrant (though if your a bigot of course logic doesn't matter) for other teams not willing to put in the effort to win this. KGB and L clan are also same/similar time zones if KGB would put in the effort as would L Clan they to could easily ORGANIZE nightly skirmish matches if they so desired.

There are a lot of options open to every team. What they need, is to be willing to put in the effort to succeed which most of them are not, and Tyrant is.

The fact that they have a sister team doesn't mean ****. If Riut and Slam were not willing to be awake and playing at 2 to 6 am EVERY DAY then tyrant warlords would be ****ed.

They are though. So why aren't other teams?

Don't blame the Tyrant players for wanting to win and being willing to sacrifice for it.

 

[_Andrew]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "bigot", given how littered with irony your post is.

You're certainly giving Ovenka and Condom a run for their money in the Tyrant spokesperson race, though.

 

[HighFlyer]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "bigot", given how littered with irony your post is.

You're certainly giving Ovenka and Condom a run for their money in the Tyrant spokesperson race, though.

That seems to be the only reply you ever have Andrew. Some states facts you ignore all and say "fanboy" "ass kisser" so on so fourth.

As to bigotry. you have a long history of ignoring any points of view given to you, no matter who from, as soon as TyRanT is brought into the mix. Anyone who has bothered to read any of your topics/post surrounding TyRanT knows this.

So no, I feel "bigot" is the perfect word to describe you and your actions. But as I said that post wasn't meant for you. It was meant for anyone who read what you wrote and thinks it might have one iota of relevance / common sense.

 

[_Andrew]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word "bigot", given how littered with irony your post is.

You're certainly giving Ovenka and Condom a run for their money in the Tyrant spokesperson race, though.

That seems to be the only reply you ever have Andrew. Some states facts you ignore all and say "fanboy" "*** kisser" so on so fourth.

As to bigotry. you have a long history of ignoring any points of view given to you, no matter who from, as soon as TyRanT is brought into the mix. Anyone who has bothered to read any of your topics/post surrounding TyRanT knows this.

So no, I feel "bigot" is the perfect word to describe you and your actions. But as I said that post wasn't meant for you. It was meant for anyone who read what you wrote and thinks it might have one iota of relevance / common sense.

Scary how the dumbest people are always the most sure of their opinions. Complete absence of comprehensive thinking. Enjoy your crusade, doggy.

Post wasn't meant for you, btw, just for all dumb people out there. Nice of you to represent on their behalf, tho.

 

[HighFlyer]

Woof Woof

More and more personal attacks

Woof Woof

Way to be Andrew.

 

[Nili_AoE]

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[Smotp]

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