Continuing on .I like the idea that life can only come from life.so far despite scientists best efforts,this idea stands true and cannot be denied.atheism is illogical.
God exist? what is the arg?
If you find a fully function clock you will know that someone created that clock. Logic. You dont need to ask anyone. Its more simple than you think, and many more. If you study how works OUR WORLD YOU WILL GET IT. We have a biogenese law, that we learn at school (you LEARNED also i think) that says just Life can create Life. That law works in everything. If you see a bee, you know that was a father and mother bee. Even in cells that multiplicate, they need other cell to create a new one. If you make a protein (do not have life, but compose the life) in laboratory, you will be the master living mind that created that protein. In the world we have standart to think. God is a fully logic evidence. Because our spirit and first man body need to have a mind behind of it.
Keyword is that you "like" the idea without any rational reason or evidence behind it. On the basis of what you like you can choose to ignore all the detailed evidence and reasearch but keep in mind, it's a choice you are making which is clearly not objective.
Religion was a way to bring social rules in place in ancient past which now in most countries is done by laws which are fundamemntally driven by reason.
He was bang on the money,and you are out of your depth.maybe a more scientific approach is needed rather than just low iq mockery.Hi, i never used aoezone so i don't know if this is the same topic as before or what, I just had to say that I read this:
And that this is the most enormous pile of crap I read in a good while, I honestly am out of words as to how someone can just write this and not be embarrassed to post it!
Cheers!
And that this is the most enormous pile of crap I read in a good while, I honestly am out of words as to how someone can just write this and not be embarrassed to post it!
Cheers!
Science doesnt know how the first self replicating molecule started. Science cant replicate it in the lab (yet). But its spontaneous formation has been made plausible by studying the conditions of the young earth. Anyway, inserting God in the discussion is no solution whatsoever. God in the past made all the species (which ofcourse now we know that they evolved from a common ancestor). God in the past made the sun and moon rise. God was used to explain lot of things. Yet God has been pushed away from any real explanations by science. Just because science does not (yet or maybe never) know everything, there is no reason to propose a God.
People who deny evolution itself are just ignorant. Goverments who put creationism in science classes are criminal in my opinion.
The reason for the proposition of God is less along the lines of we needed a god to make animals and more along the lines of we need a God to make a Universe out of nothing!
Assuming there is a God in no way denies evolution (there a lot of independent meanings of what people take evolution to mean).
It would make perfect sense, to have a God create the world out of nothing, create the mechanisms by which the world works, and then leave it because it was made well and sustainable.
Personally I think the opposite, that its criminal to teach that the world just bounced out of nothing into existence, without a creator with infinite power to actually make something out of nothing.
That being said, the bible says god created a bunch of stuff after the world was created. Animals plants humans, etc. It doesn't say HOW he created them. He could have easily done so by a very gradual process, which involved slow evolution of life forms, who knows.
Though I would like some evidence corresponding to the claim that "we all know all species derive from a common ancestor")
that the universe earth etc was not created in 7 days.
Actually an interesting Topic, because I don't have anyone around me (studying on a tech University) who really believes in creationism. However I dont know what "god" is for you. But the bible is definitely wrong, because the timeline is totally wrong. We know from the different geological layers and their age (verified scientifc Proofs) with specific fossils in it. that the universe earth etc was not created in 7 days. That's just a fact. I am in the mining and Tunneling field. Those geological processes take far too Long for all of this.
Furthermore it is a Little bit of a usless discussions on the other Hand. Because you cant proof god and if you really believe in it. The other side will never Show enough evidence for you to believe them. Only if there would be Zero "mysteries" you can believe them and we all know that will never happen.
I can imagine that a lot of People cant believe Evolution. Because some cant believe the earth is not flat nor we could imagine to every fly thorugh the sky, visit the moon etc. But some People can imagine Things we (normal) People cant and thats why they Research and find Solutions to make them happen. I never said that there is a proof that smth like god doesnt exist I just said that the bible is 100% wrong. And you can Interpret everything as you want to see it right?
I also dont say my opinion is the correct one, but Religion is just a Topic where it is really hard to proof either side to the other.
However I can mention that scientists (especially mathematics) found "rules" for nearly everything accuring in the world just explaining by numbers and mathematical instructions.
I could argue why was it god and not the devil who created the earth to let us suffer? People are starving we build nuclear bombs we destroy our only habitable planet right now. He made People think that a lot of Things are not real and in the end the earth will be the hell? just another theory you probably cant proof and neither cant I
I believe in evolution to an extent.it's obvious things evolve.what I don't believe is there's crossover between the various kinds.biology backs me up.reptiles can't evolve into birds nor evolve into mammals
So you are saying that despite the best efforts from the most brilliant minds on the planet,they have failed in their attempts to create the most simplest life form.but you are willing to accept that this life form somehow appeared without any intelligence behind it.this defies logic.
If evolution was truly random, it would be impossible to be here in just few million years. Just observe humans. If there is slight variation in genes, human becomes mentally ill and it would be impossible for him to survive, because of "law of jungle". Probabilities of successful mutations between every step in evolution chain are so damn low, that it would need billions of "experiments" just to bring one evolved. Then he would also need to survive and be sure his genes are dominant when reproducing. Thus i can't believe that evolution was just a series of random processes.
The 7 day was literary style used in that era, when you wrote your story in span of 7 days. No person in their right mind (in today's society) would believe world was created in 7 (earthly) days.
Like I said you are ignorant about evolution. I will try to explain but any book on the matter will do better. Evolution is not random. It is the opposite of random. Yes, there is a random variation between generations but these variations are then naturally selected. 2 giraffes are born, one has a slightly longer neck by random chance. But then he has more leaves to eat from trees and can produce more offspring. Thus the quality for long necks is selected. The opposite of random.
Because each child is its parents species. That's biological fact. Doesnt mean that in a single generation things cant change. Doesnt mean that over many generation on 2 different biological islands (cant breed with other island) the species can diverge into 2 species.It's still a giraffe
You dont understand statistical physics. The experiments done were replicating the conditions of the young earth. Then chance has to do the rest. In the lab amino acids have been observered. But to get the actual self replicating molecule you need more complexity. The odds of a molecule to form are inversely porporsional to the complexity. Thus a bigger experiment with more time is needed if you want to see the lucky formation. Earth is big and old
Because each child is its parents species. That's biological fact. Doesnt mean that in a single generation things cant change. Doesnt mean that over many generation on 2 different biological islands (cant breed with other island) the species can diverge into 2 species.