What about Nili

[ProudObuch]

When Nili is around and active within the Age2 community we’re all better off for it. He’s done a ton of good for this game over the years. I was critical of a comment he made and his seemingly dismissive attitude of AoE2 when AoE4 was first released but think it’s important to keep in perspective everything he’s done for our game and if he’s coming back to Age2 I think it’s great news.

Aged like milk 11

 

[_Andrew]

Aged like milk 11

I stand by all of it. If he's back, great. If not, we'll be fine.

But I've been involved in this community for 12+ years now and the list of people who have done more for it than Nili isn't very long.

 

[wincher01]

Immediately following the announcement on his facebook stream, Viper was asked about training for AoE4/NC4. He explained that the state of the game is so bad, and so unenjoyable to play, that he cannot see himself training or consistently playing AoE4. He is going to hope for the best with the February patch, and see how it goes

I have no words for this... Just insane.

Also $100k seems way over the top for just 8 players (for this game anyway)

Edit: don't get me wrong I'm always happy when tournaments are being set up

 

[Snizl]

Immediately following the announcement on his facebook stream, Viper was asked about training for AoE4/NC4. He explained that the state of the game is so bad, and so unenjoyable to play, that he cannot see himself training or consistently playing AoE4. He is going to hope for the best with the February patch, and see how it goes

Feels really weird that he is invited then. Tbh I think he should forfeit the spot in that case. Give it to someone that has actual interest in playing the game, if he doesn't even feel like practicing for it.

 

[wincher01]

I'm sad that Lidakor isn't part of the casters (don't know if he was asked), his knowledge of the game is really good. And I love Dave but can he really cast Aoe4?

 

[i_no_english]

Feels really weird that he is invited then. Tbh I think he should forfeit the spot in that case. Give it to someone that has actual interest in playing the game, if he doesn't even feel like practicing for it.

Can't realistically expect to forfeit a chance at USD 30k just because he is not fully motivated to play

 

[Snizl]

Can't realistically expect to forfeit a chance at USD 30k just because he is not fully motivated to play

That were if he was actually training for it. I mean yes, it basically is a free 5k he is getting for being invited. So I think it depends on how much he got out of the facebook deal, if this is a reasonable expectation or not. Either way, it doesn't look great.

 

[sheeesh]

I'm sad that Lidakor isn't part of the casters (don't know if he was asked), his knowledge of the game is really good. And I love Dave but can he really cast Aoe4?

Lida not getting invited to the popular kids' parties is becoming sad indeed

 

[rbase96]

Lida was the first caster to go for aoe4 full time and though i haven't watched that often he seems to be doing really well for himself. He has been casting a lot on EGCTV and on his own channel his numbers have gone through the roof this past month. Maybe he couldn't commit because he's studying in the US? It's weird not to see him involved in some way.

 

[archxeon]

That were if he was actually training for it. I mean yes, it basically is a free 5k he is getting for being invited. So I think it depends on how much he got out of the facebook deal, if this is a reasonable expectation or not. Either way, it doesn't look great.

Wouldn't be surprised by Viper wins the whole thing. Just because he isn't motivated to play at the moment doesn't mean a 100k tourney won't change that.

 

[oozkan]

Lida not getting invited to the popular kids' parties is becoming sad indeed

Indeed, although I made quite a bit jokes about annoucement thingy, I agree that if there is an AOE4 event, Lida should be there.

 

[Dusk2Dawn]

Feels really weird that he is invited then. Tbh I think he should forfeit the spot in that case. Give it to someone that has actual interest in playing the game, if he doesn't even feel like practicing for it.

why would he do that? might practice a little and defeat some players, granting him some thousands

 

[LowEloNobody]

Wouldn't be surprised by Viper wins the whole thing. Just because he isn't motivated to play at the moment doesn't mean a 100k tourney won't change that.

He got absolutely smacked by DeMuslim in a Bo5 showmatch 5 minutes before NC4 was announced.
Today, to start prepping for NC4, he is playing the Saladin campaign

 

[archxeon]

He got absolutely smacked by DeMuslim in a Bo5 showmatch 5 minutes before NC4 was announced.
Today, to start prepping for NC4, he is playing the Saladin campaign

I don't follow AoE4 too much, but I know he also won one tournament. Is the skill difference between the current top AoE4 players and him already that big, that it cannot be overcome? (I'm asking because I don't follow).

 

[Snizl]

Wouldn't be surprised by Viper wins the whole thing. Just because he isn't motivated to play at the moment doesn't mean a 100k tourney won't change that.

as far as I understood he made those comments after the announcement. I just think its not exactly best form to get invited to a tournament, accept the invitation, but having zero interest in the event and not practicing for it. If he signed up for a qualifier, thats a different thing, but with an invite meh.

Like, if I hired a friend to participate as a comedian at a show that I'm hosting at the retirement home, I would expect him to prepare a program, and if he tells me he doesnt have any interest in making comedy for old folks he should decline so I can fill that spot with someone else.

 

[SuperskinnyBLS]

as far as I understood he made those comments after the announcement. I just think its not exactly best form to get invited to a tournament, accept the invitation, but having zero interest in the event and not practicing for it. If he signed up for a qualifier, thats a different thing, but with an invite meh.

Like, if I hired a friend to participate as a comedian at a show that I'm hosting at the retirement home, I would expect him to prepare a program, and if he tells me he doesnt have any interest in making comedy for old folks he should decline so I can fill that spot with someone else.

Viper didn't invite himself there xd he is allowed to say whatever he wants to and if he dislikes the game and has no motivation to play then it's even to better to stay open about it : )

 

[Snizl]

Viper didn't invite himself there xd he is allowed to say whatever he wants to and if he dislikes the game and has no motivation to play then it's even to better to stay open about it : )

Sure, never said he isn't allowed to, just saying that I don't like that move, and explained with an analogy.

 

[LowEloNobody]

I don't follow AoE4 too much, but I know he also won one tournament. Is the skill difference between the current top AoE4 players and him already that big, that it cannot be overcome? (I'm asking because I don't follow).

He won the very first tournament, about a week after the game was released. He has placed OK in others since, but no other major wins. The DeMuslim showmatch was a bit of a surprise because up until 2-3 weeks ago, that would have been a competitive 3-2 set. Even after only being out of AoE4 for a couple weeks, it was an absolute clap. The level in AoE4 is advancing much more quickly than AoE2 because it is so new. Having 100 hours of game time compared to 200 is a much bigger deal than having 9,900 hours compared to 10,000

 

[tandras]

Lida was the first caster to go for aoe4 full time and though i haven't watched that often he seems to be doing really well for himself. He has been casting a lot on EGCTV and on his own channel his numbers have gone through the roof this past month. Maybe he couldn't commit because he's studying in the US? It's weird not to see him involved in some way.

Indeed, although I made quite a bit jokes about annoucement thingy, I agree that if there is an AOE4 event, Lida should be there.

This is just so sad. I kinda disliked that he switched to AoE4 but he committed to it and has been one of the most active AoE4 casters out there. Drongo/Grubby are obvious selections due to their size/viewership in AoE4, but I feel Lida got scammed here. Dave is a great caster and I love his AoE2 content, but it's quite unfair that he is invited and given a huge opportunity when he is not even spending any time in AoE4.
If there was a big AoE2 event and for example Aussie Drongo would be invited to cast but Dave wasn't, he would probably be pissed as well, since he is committing a lot of time and effort to make great AoE2 content, so for him missing out on an event like that would hurt.
It also seems Lida wasn't even asked if he can attend according to this twitter post:
https://twitter.com/LidaStream/status/1484238164403306502
I don't think Lida being in US affects things, he is Hungarian so he doesn't need visa to germany, and I think he is also vaccinated. It's possible Nili just didn't want to invite him. It's his event I guess.
Also, I think in one stream Lida said he asked both Nili and Dave to cocast the 3v3 tourney but both said no. I understand Dave, he was busy with WWC, but Nili casted the whole event alone. Maybe he just doesn't like Lida as a caster?

 

[archxeon]

If there was a big AoE2 event and for example Aussie Drongo would be invited to cast but Dave wasn't, he would probably be pissed as well, since he is committing a lot of time and effort to make great AoE2 content, so for him missing out on an event like that would hurt.

Being pissed at not being invited as a caster seems a bit too much. Disappointment is understandable. Invitation to a player and invitation to a caster is much different. Inviting a low skilled player instead of the best player may affect the integrity of the tournament but not inviting the caster with the most viewers is not the same. If I were organizing something, I may get help from someone I can trust over someone who is slightly better at the job,

 

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[Progeusz]

Disgusting.

Not surprising in the slightest.

Disgusting nonetheless. Very sad too.

 

[NKamayuk]

Immediately following the announcement on his facebook stream, Viper was asked about training for AoE4/NC4. He explained that the state of the game is so bad, and so unenjoyable to play, that he cannot see himself training or consistently playing AoE4. He is going to hope for the best with the February patch, and see how it goes

I think you missed the part where he clearly stated that he would obviously be training for the tournament with the respect that such an event deserves.

 

[LowEloNobody]

I think you missed the part where he clearly stated that he would obviously be training for the tournament with the respect that such an event deserves.

Yeahhhhh
When is he going to train? In the time between the February patch and the actual tournament?
Most of the other pros that are expected to be competitive are grinding every single day

 

[PipesMble]

Yeahhhhh
When is he going to train? In the time between the February patch and the actual tournament?
Most of the other pros that are expected to be competitive are grinding every single day

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