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EPIC....11
Dreams banking skills are 1400+ -
I still think grunt can be #1 if he is interested in aoc and play hard, but he doesnt ^^
he lost interest about aoc
i really think grunt's natural game skill is highly best than any other
i really want grunt's best play as his fan
its one of big reason why i participation wcl7.
all knows he take at least 1,000,000$ from all games. he was a success as an pro-gamer. i really hope that he back aoc.
but it failed. 11 he never be serious till end of tournament. :@
halen is too. i want to see he back aoc. but marriage is death to his game life. 11
I don't think grunt's natural skill is higher than any other. Maybe he is good, sure, but he owns a pc cafe and when he was playing he was playing all day long, everyday.
I know your small group has an unwritten rule where you all talk each other up to try to get more intrigue, especially to try to get company sponsorship in the pro-gaming world, but don't bring that to public forums.
I remember being at wcg 2001 with magi vs koven and grunt at grunts pc cafe. I asked koven why he lost vs grunt in wcg korea, and he told me its because grunt gets to practice all day long, as much as he wants 11. In Canada, magi probably would've beaten the crap out of me if he had time to train half as much as I did. Crexis might have too, he was really good in aok (methos+crexis ram express, anyone? old school 11), just didnt have time anymore.
aoc drama is the best drama
1st : all old expert remember u couldn't win grunt halen koven all tournament till 2002. (koven went to army at 2002. halen and grunt left aoc after finished wcg2002. they moved to aom.) there is still too many expert who remember then. they would be confirm if u said its lie.
please tell me if there was tournament which u won them till 2002 if i missed.
it would be really funny if u say u were not enough good. u played too much games than now and you were 2.4k.
you were just good rated points to us be 2.3k in my memories.
you also lost to us wcl2, wcl4. you won grunt at back to almarty tournament. but aom and ror were main game to grunt. grunt participate this tournament without practice. were you happy to win rusty grunt?
you are on competition all tournament almost 12 years. its really kidding that if u couldn't be top. you may solve the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture if effort as practice aoc.
its natural in my eyes.
that's why i never think you are same level as them.
you needed win them mostly when all was shape (its sure that 2000~2002) and you were be top on other game too if u want listen to me "you are one of best"
you always cried "koven never do record and please check record when i used mossar and rabi90 nick at 2000
we thought you are cute boy. (you always said "i am 13") i never expected you are be crazy guy as this year.
it was really shitly mistake that we did recorded for you.
but I disagree that they are more skilled than Chris for AoC, especially if you sett the bar in 2001 days when Chris was a 13 years old child and i think he was already better than them in late 2002 except from Halen maybe, RD beat grunt in WCG qualy and then got rapped hard at WCG.
because of AoC living forever there is no "alltime-best-player", there is just a "best-until-now-player" :!:
1st : all old expert remember u couldn't win grunt halen koven all tournament till 2002. (koven went to army at 2002. halen and grunt left aoc after finished wcg2002. they moved to aom.) there is still too many expert who remember then. they would be confirm if u said its lie.
please tell me if there was tournament which u won them till 2002 if i missed.
it would be really funny if u say u were not enough good. u played too much games than now and you were 2.4k.
you were just good rated points to us be 2.3k in my memories.
you also lost to us wcl2, wcl4. you won grunt at back to almarty tournament. but aom and ror were main game to grunt. grunt participate this tournament without practice. were you happy to win rusty grunt?
you are on competition all tournament almost 12 years. its really kidding that if u couldn't be top. you may solve the Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer Conjecture if effort as practice aoc.
its natural in my eyes.
that's why i never think you are same level as them.
you needed win them mostly when all was shape (its sure that 2000~2002) and you were be top on other game too if u want listen to me "you are one of best"
you always cried "koven never do record and please check record when i used mossar and rabi90 nick at 2000
we thought you are cute boy. (you always said "i am 13") i never expected you are be crazy guy as this year.
it was really shitly mistake that we did recorded for you.
Well it was hard to tell who was best when tourneys were best of 1 or 3. I think Chris started to be THAT good just before wcg 2002 but he couldnt go, and before that he reached high rank in all the big tourneys anyway. I wasnt around anyway, couldnt know who use to train more or less.but I disagree that they are more skilled than Chris for AoC, especially if you sett the bar in 2001 days when Chris was a 13 years old child and i think he was already better than them in late 2002 except from Halen maybe, RD beat grunt in WCG qualy and then got rapped hard at WCG.
omg its just one game. lol
no one expected RD would win grunt in wcg2002 korea final.
RD was one of best korean player sure. but he wasn't good as aok on aoc except early 2000. his maximum rated war around 2200.
i remember grunt lost scout at dark age. grunt tried push early time with few skir+pike and but rd skir and pike came more fast when grunt units was on middle map.
Wow, haha. I guess I struck a nerve by saying I don't think grunt has more potential than every single other aoc player that ever lived to be #1. I think you are making a mighty bold claim by saying that. You are excluding every other top player now and in the last 12 years by saying that. I have played a small collection of geniuses over the years and I can say that in my opinion there have been a few with much more potential than grunt. I will give you my small list of players I think could have more aoc potential than him:
The early years:
The_Sheriff_
Maimin_Matty
DevilZ_Aardsvark
Kaiser_Willhelm
The mid years:
_IamKmkm
NoX_Ken
CNS_YanZi
lyncher_
pG_FIRE_
The 3rd era:
ArgoNaut_Goku_
Enjoylonely
Chan_Ka_Qing
L_Clan_Ruso
And more recently:
[CSC]Sie_
_kyo
L_Clan_FeAge
The WCL7 RVK squad
---------------> i am agree too. i never said they are no good. but there needs hwiry(who was over 2.3k in 3month) and seri(all remember koven, seri, rd was best of 3 in the moment). u seems like lack of information at early aok and aoc.
anyway. i was talking about you vs grunt and koven. bcuz u claimed
"As far as I can tell kkab has never been fond of me. Ever since I started beating koven in september 2001, which was his longterm idol, he started to dislike me. I don't even remember chatting once with kkab in wcg 2003."
all wcg2001 player remember you challenged 3 games against koven before u back to canada after finished all wcg2001 matches. you lost all game in 30mins. all can check who won arbalet cup1,2 which biggest 1v1 tournament at 2002 except wcg2002.
please doesn't try cloud the issue.
In my humble opinion grunt has typically been a formidable opponent. However, that does not mean he is more potentially capable than the entire slew of high class players this game has had. I have seen him practice in real life in both aoc and aom. He plays the computer 100 times doing the same strategy over and over right before a tournament. I think grunt is fast and focused but he doesn't have the combination of speed and reactivity that makes players like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Schenkhuizen grubby stand out. I am sure there have been a few 'grubby' s playing aoc that just stayed for a short time period, and to say he has more potential than all of them is, in my opinion, absurd.
--------------->WoW. its really fun that u said like that. i saw too that how you practiced and played aoc and aom. (i was referee of wcg2001, i saw all yours games behind you. also i was in wcg 2003 all day. only u wanted play aoc during all participant was practice aom. and u lost in group stage. remember or not. we played some aoc games together in wcg2003 practice room)
please doesn't adjust whats your weakness point to others.
No need to bring my skill level into this discussion, I am not claiming anything here, I am merely stating the fact that I think there have been many many players with more potential than grunt throughout the last 12 years of AoC.
--------------->its simply answer that who took mostly prize from all of aoe series tournament. you just took 1/50 prize than grunt.
If you want to attack me personally, you should open a new topic. I'll even help, as I mock myself regularly for my irregularities.
--------------->u already attack us much and i am still patient.
as i said you when we were talking about tim.
i saw all old expert style from your game and it called me good memories.
you are one of player who played aoc over 10 years. it means we shared much good memories and spent much times.
but i can't understand you really in this year.
well it must be private chat if i have some problem with you. but u already upload our private chat log and rearrange it.
I'm not sure why you are so obsessed with me.
What do you mean "attacked us."
I have never attacked you, however I have:
- stated publicly that tyrant is paying its members to train
- discussed my perception of other top players throughout the years
- asked you for sponsorship, most recently asking for at least $10 000 to lead your team
I'm not sure how that offends you or why you are trying to find as many losses of me as you can over the years. I have plenty of losses, I'm sure you won't have to look to hard to find some more.
kkab is a very bitter and egotistic man
Your opinion is worthless.
Don't worry, its LEGENDary 1111well. my english isn't good to explain all exactly.