wot?
Robo was asking about spectator dashboard. It was created by HappyLeaves which is now marketed as Voobly created feature, specially when people outline differences of HD vs Voobly.
Marketed? You phucking wot?
wot?
Robo was asking about spectator dashboard. It was created by HappyLeaves which is now marketed as Voobly created feature, specially when people outline differences of HD vs Voobly.
how can such a small community have so much drama all the time 11 madness..
@Fall can you clarify the situation that lead to your account lvl change, did you quit? Would be surprised to see if they kicked you for something like this.
Where has it been marketed as voobly created?
wot?
Robo was asking about spectator dashboard. It was created by HappyLeaves which is now marketed as Voobly created feature, specially when people outline differences of HD vs Voobly.
The reason for this was said to be because only the widescreen patch had a possibility to get cheats through as it was not built in feature like it became with UP.Widescreen patch was available on Voobly long before the Userpatch was adopted, it was a premium membership feature only though
Ok I stand corrected.
If voobly created age of empires II it would be a different story. The fact is, the game they are hosting does not belong to them.
I agree that it's weird, but when the creators turned their backs and left the game for dead, Voobly not only saved it but developed* the best AoE experience seen (to this day, even). If HD didn't happen, the game might as well belong to Voobly.
But HD did happen and here we are in a real weird spot.
*(UP devs obviously share a lot of credit for this as well)
When a developer officially ends support for a game, they do not cede the rights to their game into the wild. Supported or not, Microsoft owns the original and re-released HD edition.
Ensemble, hidden path, and skybox also do not own any part of it, even as the creators.
Voobly is just an average - sub par client to play a few old games on. Voobly just applied what a group of fans created, the UP team. It's those guys work that make the game viable at all. Without these non voobly people, you would be playing at 800x600 on 1.0c.
So once you take away they don't own the rights to the game, they didn't create the user patch, that doesn't leave much left for them to have so much control. And not even the creator of voobly, just a small band of guys that like to control things.
You are the one who can go back in the cave. I only see you come out once and awhile to take a shot at me.
Voobly is just an average - sub par client to play a few old games on.
Supported or not, Microsoft owns the original and re-released HD edition.
ignore ultrafong... he always takes his chance to crap on voobly. all you little drama makers here DansGame
Why cannot the people running the platform do what they want? Why would they even want to be like Valve? To me Valve is just a money hungry corporation that could not care less of average player. No point in responding to me, as I will not even read the reply.
Imagine how much positive it would be if Voobly staff didn't do all these stupid policies, had more of an open mind and collaborative spirit... sigh
Escape gaming is not a platform - they are sponsors who hosted their own tourney (similar to if a streamer hosted his own tourney and restricted streaming to himself). Why is Voobly stuff trying to go beyond its platform identity? Talk about the Voobly official channel, no popular streamers actually cast there anymore.. and the community team of last year also disbanded, which had a very positive outlook.Like escape gaming? They're doing the same and no one has a problem with that somehow. Anyway I don't really care since i can watch the games anyway so it doesnt change anything for people like me
Imagine how much positive it would be if Voobly staff didn't do all these stupid policies, had more of an open mind and collaborative spirit... sigh
Like escape gaming? They're doing the same and no one has a problem with that somehow. Anyway I don't really care since i can watch the games anyway so it doesnt change anything for people like me
I don't understand why patao dragged HD into this convo about voobly streaming policy?... While voobly does offer really great features, it seems any of its criticisms is responded by dragging HD unnnecessarily into it. There is this notion that: "because voobly founders did a lot, somehow its shady policies are justified or they can do whatever they want."
This entire talk of HD vs Voobly has got absolutely nothing to do with the somewhat self-defeating streaming policy that they have rolled out.
Imagine how much positive it would be if Voobly staff didn't do all these stupid policies, had more of an open mind and collaborative spirit... sigh
Maybe it's just more about not letting random streamers cast tournaments games hosted or sponsored by voobly so they don't make free money with it. And thus such money is earned by voobly to increase the current tournaments prizepool, new tournaments, or just voobly maintenance. That's my interpretation, at least. It would be nice to hear the official reason for these new rules.
I don't understand why patao dragged HD into this convo about voobly streaming policy?
» Ultrafong said:My point is voobly is vastly over reaching what a mere platform should be doing. ... Steam would never sponsor an aoe2 tournament, why would voobly?
Maybe it's just more about not letting random streamers cast tournaments games hosted or sponsored by voobly so they don't make free money with it. And thus such money is earned by voobly to increase the current tournaments prizepool, new tournaments, or just voobly maintenance. That's my interpretation, at least. It would be nice to hear the official reason for these new rules.
Maybe it's just more about not letting random streamers cast tournaments games hosted or sponsored by voobly so they don't make free money with it. And thus such money is earned by voobly to increase the current tournaments prizepool, new tournaments, or just voobly maintenance. That's my interpretation, at least. It would be nice to hear the official reason for these new rules.
Because being the premier platform for aoe2 is Voobly's product. If Steam essentially only had one game on it, they'd want it to get more popular too. Theoretically if the high-level game grows, and Voobly remains a part of that, Voobly grows. Why would they not support that? Simple economics / incentives.
I don't understand why patao dragged HD into this convo about voobly streaming policy?
Ultrafong made the point that Voobly doesn't own the game, so in his opinion for some reason shouldn't be involved in streaming. On the side he called it "subpar", which is what I was responding to and rather hilarious when you look at the alternatives out there, but I agree, that should be a different conversation.
» Ultrafong said:My point is voobly is vastly over reaching what a mere platform should be doing. ... Steam would never sponsor an aoe2 tournament, why would voobly?
Because being the premier platform for aoe2 is Voobly's product. If Steam essentially only had one game on it, they'd want it to get more popular too. Theoretically if the high-level game grows, and Voobly remains a part of that, Voobly grows. Why would they not support that? Simple economics / incentives.
I don't know where you get the notion that you get to dictate the role of other organizations?
As for the streaming policy, Bulletchen is absolutely right that it's basically just a match of Escape.gg's policy, and if anything more open. They're not doing anything to abuse their position as a platform by trying to manipulate user organized tournaments, which they absolutely could do (but would drive tournaments to HD).