TeTe Invitational 3v3 - Rules & Settings

[HeavenlyChorus]

About Scheduling: Will be doing with teams privately and add schedules later

Format

Round Robin Format

5 Teams play 5 Rounds within 10 Days

Thus one set of Bo5 per day

Spoiler: Example

R1 (Day 1-2)	R2 (Day 3-4)	R3 (Day 5-6)	R4 (Day 7-8)	R5 (Day 9-10)
Team 1 vs Team 4	Team 3 vs Team 1	Team 5 vs Team 3	Team 2 vs Team 5	Team 4 vs Team 2
Team 2 vs Team 3	Team 4 vs Team 5	Team 1 vs Team 2	Team 3 vs Team 4	Team 5 vs Team 1
Team 5 Bye	Team 2 Bye	Team 4 Bye	Team 1 Bye	Team 3 Bye

Each day's set starts @15GMT

Teams get one score per set-win

Bracket: https://challonge.com/teteinv



About Maps:

Mappack:

https://www.ageofempires.com/mods/details/4136 (or just search TeTe in mod center)

Made by @Chrazini, big props to him for all his work

All maps have the prefix of "TeTe"

Maps (with linked previews) in the pool are:

1. African Waters (center revealed)
2. Aztlan (4 corners revealed)
3. Desert Slope
4. Forest Pond
5. Holy Crest Adventure (due to players' feedbacks) (Mappack mod will be updated soon is up to date now)
6. Kawasan
7. Khamsin
8. Lost Island (center revealed)
9. Monocle
10. Shelter
11. Sinkhole

Map picks:

Every Bo5 starts with Arabia

Team that loses the previous map gets to pick their homemap for the next game

After G1 all 4 maps will be picked (by just typing in the lobby) and PLAYED in the order of ABBA

A=Team lost G1, B=Team won G1

Maps can't be repeated within a Bo5

Spoiler: Example

Example:

Team A vs Team B
Team A loses G1 Arabia
Team A picks African Waters for G2
Team B picks Aztlan for G3
Team B picks Desert Slope for G4
Team A picks Forest Pond for G5

About Civs:

Hidden pick, no repeat, civ pool resets per Bo5. (i.e. no repeating civs only within a single Bo5)



Lobby Settings:

Standard settings

Conquest victory

Team positions on (clockwise spawns based on colors)


About Colors:

123456 are available and will be split into two sets: 135 and 246

Team captains need to message me on steam @HeavenlyChorus (When Team China is playing) or mainly @Mr_Yo (When Team China isn't playing) about:
Your choice of color sets (which will be used throughtout a single Bo5)
More importantly, who picks which color (i.e. ur team positions)

The message about color sets need to be sent(discussed) before creating the lobby for G1
The message about color positions should be sent before creating the lobby for each game , to ensure the fairness with picking positions


Players should figure out the fair server themselves

One player will be hosting the lobby throughout a Bo5 (check recorded games selection down below if ur the host)



Other Rules:

No boar laming just with scouts

No TC-straggler trees laming

No new trade exploit

About the trade exploit: Teams can place markets at both sides to save one trip for carts, but cannot manually reroute empty trade carts (unless trades get cut and need to remake markets) to exploit it heavily, as seen in this thread.

No sling before the slinger hits Castle Age

One player can only sling 500 res out in total, before hitting Imperial Age

No restarts



Prizepool

3k USD, so 300 USD per set of Bo5

Each 300 USD will be distributed in proportion of the score in the Bo5

Credits to @USC_kiky for the suggestion

Spoiler: Example

If 3:0 winner take all
If 3:1 winner take 75% loser take 25%
If 3:2 winner take 60% loser take 40%

Streaming Policy

Open for streaming



Recorded Games

For players, please check here and upload recs after each day's matches

 

[nimanoe]

Wow, that's a surprise, but a very welcome one! Who is sponsoring this event?

A few questions regarding the settings:
Around what dates is this event planned?
Will the trade exploit be allowed? (For those that don't know)
What happens if there's a draw in points?
Is there a final after the Round Robin stage?
And are the homemaps selected before they play the first map, or are they only announced before the next map?

 

[komtan]

nice one

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

Wow, that's a surprise, but a very welcome one! Who is sponsoring this event?

A few questions regarding the settings:
Around what dates is this event planned?
Will the trade exploit be allowed? (For those that don't know)
What happens if there's a draw in points?
Is there a final after the Round Robin stage?
And are the homemaps selected before they play the first map, or are they only announced before the next map?

Sry for messing up the post orders 11, I should be posting the announcement before this, the sponsor's name and date are in that thread.
Yes, I just added the trade exploit ban.
The prizepool will be distributed in proportion of the final score, and teams get 1 score per set-win map-win, sry for not making it clear earlier.
Thus it's just a single stage tournament, no finals.
"Team that loses the previous map gets to pick their homemap for the next game", so each homemap gets picked before next map, once at a time

 

[RogganWololo]

TG tournaments are always fun to watch, and have been missing since DE was launched. So this is a very nice announcement!

I would like to add one thing though. Currently, sling is allowed if the slinger is in castle age. So there is still a good possibility that we will see some sling in the tournament, especially when you consider the nature of the maps. If you want to remove sling fully, it would be better to disallow slinging till the slinger reaches imperial age, in my opinion.

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

TG tournaments are always fun to watch, and have been missing since DE was launched. So this is a very nice announcement!

I would like to add one thing though. Currently, sling is allowed if the slinger is in castle age. So there is still a good possibility that we will see some sling in the tournament, especially when you consider the nature of the maps. If you want to remove sling fully, it would be better to disallow slinging till the slinger reaches imperial age, in my opinion.

I can agree with you mostly, but there might be emergencies where a player might need a few res like 100 wood when game goes chaotic in early/mid game, in which case the punishment would be an overkill. That's what I thought on this.

 

[RogganWololo]

I can agree with you mostly, but there might be emergencies where a player might need a few res like 100 wood when game goes chaotic in early/mid game, in which case the punishment would be an overkill. That's what I thought on this.

I get your point, but this could also be potentially exploited for a full sling.

Anyway, I assume you have discussed sling rules with the players and if they're cool with it, it's all good!

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

I get your point, but this could also be potentially exploited for a full sling.

Anyway, I assume you have discussed sling rules with the players and if they're cool with it, it's all good!

I have not discussed too much with players actually, but I think with the current rule, combining with the map pool, slinging shouldn't be a good idea at all.
I would recommend you guys check out those maps by Chrazini, they are pretty new and refreshing, and you'll see why sling isn't great there.

 

[AguaSucia]

Team chinese is yo;vivi and lix ??

I would have liked to see

Dogao + fir3 + laan

Good tgs.

 

[liverpoolgamer]

Can someone post screenshots of the maps for people who don't own DE ?
Thanks

 

[Chainsaw]

Dogao needs to get recruited by Secret asap.

 

[MaSmOrRa]

Awesome tournament! Thanks for letting us know!

Indeed would have been nice to have a team with Dogao, Fire & Laaaaan.

Anyway, I'm happy TG's are finally making a comeback to AoE2, it's been long overdue.

 

[Naraic]

Awesome.

I'm disappointed that there isn't a team Brazil, dogao has been in great form, Miguel has finally started playing de and RiuT was playing team games with fire and goku recently.

That said I'm really hyped for the teams that are participating. Perhaps you can confirm the rosters of the teams involved.

 

[Zbyszek]

My post that you @HeavenlyChorus linked about the trade exploit isnt a clear definition of what is allowed and what isnt. Its just a rough explanation of how the new market behaviour can be abused and why i think its a problem.

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

My post that you @HeavenlyChorus linked about the trade exploit isnt a clear definition of what is allowed and what isnt. Its just a rough explanation of how the new market behaviour can be abused and why i think its a problem.

yep, and im trying to read/ask about people's opinion on this, i'll fix the rule later once things are clear

 

[AguaSucia]

Awesome.

I'm disappointed that there isn't a team Brazil, dogao has been in great form, Miguel has finally started playing de and RiuT was playing team games with fire and goku recently.

That said I'm really hyped for the teams that are participating. Perhaps you can confirm the rosters of the teams involved.

laan i think he is in better shape today april 3

It would be nice to see all 3

Fir3 played (nicov + mbl) the last 3 vs 3 tournament there was. and I get to the end vs secret ..

dogao is at his best and what he has shown on HC3.

Laan classified the last two important tournaments this year (NAC 3 and HC3) also with dogao, they play in the team of heresy

Beyond that. I am excited for this event

thanks and success

sure we will see good team games

gg wp

 

[Marteens]

Awesome! TGs were needed! As previous comments I miss Heresy too and it seems it wouldn't affect much having a team more.
Nevertheless thanks so much for organizing this!

 

[SuperskinnyBLS]

For those wondering what trade exploit is

 

[DoubleOcean]

I think everybody knows by now what the trade exploit is (a quite good explanation is even linked in the rules of the OP). What you are doing is just a bad attempt to throw a negative light on the Secret players and I don't think that that is really needed in this thread.

 

[Naraic]

laan i think he is in better shape today april 3

That fair. I was just suggesting brazil for the fact that they are more of a team.

 

[chrummi]

So you wanna say that Brazil is more of a team than Heresy?

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

Just updated rules about trading and slinging, if anyone have thoughts/suggestions please lemme know, especially if ur players that will participate this tournament

 

[USC_kiky]

Maybe it is just me, but I feel that the rule of "The prizepool will be distributed in proportion of the final score, and teams get 1score per set-win
"
can be changed to be proportional to the score in a set to give a losing team more incentive to fight for each game even if it can't win the whole set (bo5).
Under the current rule, since there are 10 sets of Bo5 in total, clearly winning one Bo5 will give the winner team $300, and the loser team $0, assuming the total prize pool is $3000. Therefore the weaker team may not have much motivation to put up a fight because it makes no difference whether it is 0:3 or 1:3 or 2:3 for the weaker team. It will get $0 anyway. And the stronger team doesn't need to prepare much when facing a weak team because it will get all $300 as long as it wins the Bo5.

To give the weaker teams more incentive to fight until the last minute, and make the stronger team serious about every opponent, I would suggest you distribute the $300 in each set proportionally to the score in Bo5, namely if it is 3:0, the winner team gets 100% of $300; if it is 3:1, the winner gets 75% and the loser gets 25% of that $300; if it is 3:2, the loser team gets 40% and the winner team gets 60%. That way the stronger team will try to prepare seriously for every opponent so that it can always finish 3:0, while the weaker team will try it's best to fight back even in a losing set. I think a team lost at 2:3 deserves more reward and respect than another one that lost at 0:3.

 

[HeavenlyChorus]

Maybe it is just me, but I feel that the rule of "The prizepool will be distributed in proportion of the final score, and teams get 1score per set-win
"
can be changed to be proportional to the score in a set to give a losing team more incentive to fight for each game even if it can't win the whole set (bo5).
Under the current rule, since there are 10 sets of Bo5 in total, clearly winning one Bo5 will give the winner team $300, and the loser team $0, assuming the total prize pool is $3000. Therefore the weaker team may not have much motivation to put up a fight because it makes no difference whether it is 0:3 or 1:3 or 2:3 for the weaker team. It will get $0 anyway. And the stronger team doesn't need to prepare much when facing a weak team because it will get all $300 as long as it wins the Bo5.

To give the weaker teams more incentive to fight until the last minute, and make the stronger team serious about every opponent, I would suggest you distribute the $300 in each set proportionally to the score in Bo5, namely if it is 3:0, the winner team gets 100% of $300; if it is 3:1, the winner gets 75% and the loser gets 25% of that $300; if it is 3:2, the loser team gets 40% and the winner team gets 60%. That way the stronger team will try to prepare seriously for every opponent so that it can always finish 3:0, while the weaker team will try it's best to fight back even in a losing set. I think a team lost at 2:3 deserves more reward and respect than another one that lost at 0:3.

Thanks for the suggestion, just added it.

 

[USC_kiky]

Thanks for the suggestion, just added it.

Great! Thank you for your considerations!