Both Memb and Katsuni doing a very good job for AOC, there is no doubt about it. So, Memb please dont get mad with negative comments made by few people as most of the people here appreciate ur efforts.
Well, the entire Katsuni & Memb issue can be broken down to simple facts:
-Kat & Memb were promised flight-tickets like everyone else.
-Taff, Nelson & me were asked to get there earlier (really short notice), but our tickets couldn't get processed (local travel agency causing trouble). So, we decided to book them ourselves to get a chance to prepare things.
-Kat's & Memb's hotel room was booked, they showed up on all staff lists etc. etc.
-Still on Wednesday, we had people arriving to the event.
-Kat & Memb never received any flight-tickets although casters' flights were to be booked with high priority (same as players).
I personally don't know who decided they wouldn't receive any tickets or when, but ultimately WSVG is responsible for not providing any flight-tickets and for the lack of communication (which is just as bad imo). So, the least I expect from them now is an apology to both Kat & Memb. You can't have people clear an entire week's time, promise them to get the flights sorted and then just forget about them.
Also, sorry for not uploading the recs yet. I had them all formatted on the streaming-Pc, but forgot to copy them. So, going through dozens and dozens of recs with default userpatch names again. You can expect them to be posted by tomorrow evening.
Well, the entire Katsuni & Memb issue can be broken down to simple facts:
-Kat & Memb were promised flight-tickets like everyone else.
-Taff, Nelson & me were asked to get there earlier (really short notice), but our tickets couldn't get processed (local travel agency causing trouble). So, we decided to book them ourselves to get a chance to prepare things.
-Kat's & Memb's hotel room was booked, they showed up on all staff lists etc. etc.
-Still on Wednesday, we had people arriving to the event.
-Kat & Memb never received any flight-tickets although casters' flights were to be booked with high priority (same as players).
I personally don't know who decided they wouldn't receive any tickets or when, but ultimately WSVG is responsible for not providing any flight-tickets and for the lack of communication (which is just as bad imo). So, the least I expect from them now is an apology to both Kat & Memb. You can't have people clear an entire week's time, promise them to get the flights sorted and then just forget about them.
Also, sorry for not uploading the recs yet. I had them all formatted on the streaming-Pc, but forgot to copy them. So, going through dozens and dozens of recs with default userpatch names again. You can expect them to be posted by tomorrow evening.
But Memb said on his stream that he was never in touch with WSVG guys. He was probably expecting communications from you guys as rest of the time he was communicating with you guys. He talked about aftermath of NC final stream which happened on Friday night.
Putting all blame on WSVG is clearly deflecting the issue. Are WSVG and Voobly two separate entities?
Listen jinxed, I'm glad you found something to put your energy into again, but at no point in time was any Voobly person involved with the booking of the flights / accomodation / boat transfers / food & drinks. So, try to be a bit more careful with the word "clearly" maybe.
Me and Memb spoke on Friday night, I told him Taff, Nelson and me booked the flights ourselves and that I'd book it, too, if I was him. He said he wouldn't, cuz his wife would kill him (understandably). What happened after that, I don't know. When it became clear that Memb & Kat wouldn't come, I thought: "Wow, this is bad. This deserves an apology." But not from Taff, not from Nelson and not from me, as we had nothing to do with the flights whatsoever.
Just want to clarify, why did NilPferD have the tickets to Maldives but not K+M? Did he buy the tickets himself?
Just want to clarify, why did NilPferD have the tickets to Maldives but not K+M? Did he buy the tickets himself?
Supposedly everyone there (apart from the players) bought their own tickets. Wsvg are also supposedly going to pay them back later, though I have a hard time believing this.
As I said, I spoke to Memb on Friday. What do you have to back up your claim? Memb knew full-well that we were promised to get reimbursed and decided not to book for personal reasons (which is fine).If you happen to watch the Memb's stream VOD he clearly says that if he received the communication that tickets will be reimbursed then he would have booked them on his own as well. The "wife will kill me" thing was corresponding to if he pays ultimately from his pocket.
http://www.twitch.tv/fopt_membrillo/v/19919181?t=1h45m15
An inconvenient truth huh?
As I said, I spoke to Memb on Friday. What do you have to back up your claim? Memb knew full-well that we were promised to get reimbursed and decided not to book for personal reasons (which is fine).If you happen to watch the Memb's stream VOD he clearly says that if he received the communication that tickets will be reimbursed then he would have booked them on his own as well. The "wife will kill me" thing was corresponding to if he pays ultimately from his pocket.
Proof:
[03.10.2015 01:07:44] Memb / Daniel: anyway im not paying myself, if i do that
[03.10.2015 01:07:47] Memb / Daniel: i get divorced
[03.10.2015 01:07:49] Memb / Daniel: that the diference
[03.10.2015 01:08:08] Chris / Genette AoC: Luis promised to pay back
[03.10.2015 01:09:00] Memb / Daniel: well not taking the risk, my wife not so happy that im going maldives, if i tell her that i pay and they maybe give me back later
[03.10.2015 01:09:05] Memb / Daniel: is bullshit
[03.10.2015 01:09:11] Chris / Genette AoC: I understand
Now please, if everyone could stop with the wild accusations and stop spreading utter lies in bold letters, that'd be great.