I like the idea of building on their boar bonus. The problem with this is, like you're saying, it only applies to those maps with boar out of lure reach. If you get it under the TC anyway, it would be void (you would just have to force drop even more than normal). Another way to continue the boar theme would be to give them more meat in a boar, like the tatars do with sheep or maya in general. probably not too much, since that can quickly be very strong, but that would be a real boar related eco bonus that can be put into a variety of strats. You could use it for stronger drush, men@arms, fast castle faster for huskarls or whatever you want.For 180food 60 gold, Goth can produce 4.5MA, so 5 should be easily possible. I think that's too strong.
If u want to improve Goth give them some other bonus imo. Would love to see villager carry 150 hunt food so you can take boar far away with 2 vills on Highland/BF f.e. would blend perfectly with the bonus dmg vs boars too and it's just a fun bonus that makes the civ more enjoyable while not making one strat op.
Goth is maybe midclass on arena, but on BF the civ is horrible, unless you play aoc then its more or less ok.Is it that vital that all civs get perfectly balanced on 1v1 arabia? For me it's totally fine that some civs are just better on other maps. Goths still have their viability on maps like arena and black forest, and that's fine too.
Goths are low tier civ on majority of maps and on few very specific settings perhaps a mid tier civ. Personally I would never pick goths for any map. What is more problematic is they feel really boring to play. Since first minute it is obvious what a goth player will do and how you will play. And if he does not he will fall back in eco rapidly. Their bigger attack vs boars will usually more hurt players than help because they often kill boar outside of the tc or if someone tries to lame you then goth player might kill the low hp boar far from tc.Is it that vital that all civs get perfectly balanced on 1v1 arabia? For me it's totally fine that some civs are just better on other maps. Goths still have their viability on maps like arena and black forest, and that's fine too.
For in the Gothic country the barbarians are so far from tolerating this sort of oppression that not even Romans who live among them have to bear it. Hence all the Romans in that region have but one desire, that they may never have to return to the Roman jurisdiction. It is the unanimous prayer of the Roman people in that district that they may be permitted to continue to lead their present life among the barbarians.[99]
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Based on this, lots of economy bonuses can be implemented.
Have to disagree with the phrasing there.Basically most of the old aok civs feel inferior to the majority of new expansions civs.
I agree that not all AoK civs suck, but you're ignoring Byzantines, Teutons and Turks, which all suckHave to disagree with the phrasing there.
Britons, Franks, Mongols, Chinese and Vikings are still absolute top tier civs. Japanese and Celts aren't too far either.
Persians already had their use cases and with their boosts they get a lot of versatility. Saracens have been insanely buffed as well.
It's really just Goths who suck a lot.
I would disagree on Byzantine here, their play style might be uncommon in parts but they are very competent.I agree that not all AoK civs suck, but you're ignoring Byzantines, Teutons and Turks, which all suck
Sure but franks and vikings got massive boosts since WK expansions. The new UT for britons and japanese are awsome too. Mongols and celts were always good, agreed. Turks and Saracens got some interesting buffs too but are still weaker overall especially since big mameluke nerf. Teutons got ironclad which is nice but are still weaker overall. Byzantines are a civ with which you can barely push or get an advantage, you can defend with cheaper units like halbs, skirms or camels which is not bad but those are units you usually don't wanna focus on anyways because enemy can make way stronger units and kill you cost-effectively. So byzantines are second worst aok civ after goths right now. And goths well enough said about them already.Have to disagree with the phrasing there.
Britons, Franks, Mongols, Chinese and Vikings are still absolute top tier civs. Japanese and Celts aren't too far either.
Persians already had their use cases and with their boosts they get a lot of versatility. Saracens have been insanely buffed as well.
It's really just Goths who suck a lot.