There is always a way to do weird things and they might work, chinese guys usually in maps like medi or baltic they do 2 docks few galleys hunt fishers+fwd they usually win the fwd or atleast get enough advantage, even top experts can be caught with low guard with landings or fwd in fr maps, aztks are strong enugh in 1x1 water maps atleast till castle age, ppl doesn't pick them because in case the fight last till imperial age they are going to be under a big disadvantage since anyone would be specting a land.