Then ask a tyrant member to copy/paste your message?
Zak has spent more time helping the community and supporting aoc for free than any of you throwing bullshit towards him will ever do. So what if he earns some money on it on the videos he spends hours to make? We should be happy that people that spend such amounts of time on the game actually have the possibility to earn something from it. He has also probably promoted Voobly the most out of anyone outside of Voobly, so those rants for being against Voobly are completely uncalled for as well.
And just another thing in general: If you host an event, you will want to stream it on your channels. If Voobly hosts a tournament, they will want it on the Voobly stream. Same goes for AoCZone, ZeroEmpires or whatever. If you host an event, you have the rights to promote your own stuff because you're actually the one spending hours and hours to run the events. So bashing Voobly or ZeroEmpires for wanting to stream their own tournaments on their own channels is stupid. The GML format of posting recorded games was the best one before streams became available in my opinion. Besides, it was ZeroEmpires tournament, and he wanted to try something new. If we're just going to use the same old formats every single tournament we will never progress and keep the excitement up for long. Host your own tournaments if you want to decide how things are done. You can provide constructive criticism, but attacking people the way some of you do is ridicilous.
On Topic: As far as I know the reason for this was that the sponsor wanted one single stream to get the most viewers on one single stream. I'm not sure though. But it has nothing to do with Voobly, any negative intentions towards ZeroEmpires or anything though, just a wish for a single stream and Katsuni to cast.
Thank you for the reply. It was not my intention to bring anything about Voobly etc into this, you already told me that this is the sponsors decision. The entire purpose of this thread is to try and get our voices heard so that the sponsor may re-consider his decision.
Edit: I would also like to add that the reason that a petition was my chosen method is because I can't just simply contact the sponsor. Nobody aside form TyRanT members even knows who he is, let alone how to contact him.
I have read more Zak vs Voobly threads than I care to count, this is just irritating now.
I know that both sides put a lot of effort into their work towards aoc as a voobly promoter and as much as I have disagreed with both parties on occasions i feel that there really needs to be some more logical thinking here.
First off the sponsor's decision is his and should be respected, I also can see how having two streams can get more people into aoc even if it is because the community is divided in half (Voobly vs AoE HD). I feel that dealing with this could have been done in a better way, contacting TyRanT members to see if they can make some form of communication to the sponsor to see if anything can be changed would have been better than making a youtube video telling people to come here on the basis that I think we all know that 99% of the comments will just end up in a ridiculous flame war with pro Zak vs pro voobly.
Yes I have my own opinion about past events but I am trying my best to be objective here. Please stop this nonsensical arguing and just try to make valid points that could make it easier for a decision to be made.
I think that is all that needs to be said really, the only important decision is to be made by the sponsor and if he won't change his mind then there is no arguing about it here. I know that both parties will be annoyed at this post for various reasons but you can't please everyone.
On a (maybe biased note) I think you should not push this much Zak, there will be more events in the future to stream and it will also show the community that you can respond and accept a decision like this in a mature manner.
Enjoy this essay, hope i don't see too many tl;dr. gl hf people and enjoy the TyRanT war games regardless of who is streaming it i say
+1!!I've seen more than once, Zeroempires not allowing other ppl to stream smtg, monopolizing a event.. to gain viewers, and stuff like that
u deserve even worse
:evil:
not to mention GML
where u forced us to wait ppl watch ur crap videos before downloading recs :twisted:
rgeadn +1 put signed or don't comment, let sponsor decide! gg wp gb