OBNC Feedback Thread

[OrnLu528]

Hello nomad fans! This past weekend we concluded the BIG LEAGUE of the BIG NOMAD CUP with a really exciting series between Handcannons OP and O Mai Goss. In addition, we still have the semis and finals of TINY LEAGUE coming up in the next couple weeks or so. However, since we just finished the "main event", I wanted to open up the feedback thread now, while the tournament is still fresh in people's minds. This is the first tournament I've ever hosted, so I would definitely appreciate some feedback from both players and viewers of OBNC. There were definitely some bumps along the way, and I learned plenty from doing this event. The goal is to make sure that (hopefully!) future tournaments of mine can be even better than this one!

For feedback, I am going to post some examples of questions below - these are just suggestions, feel free to answer any amount of them, or talk about things that I didn't mention. For clarity I separated between players and viewers, so please distinguish which you are when responding. (You can be both a player and a viewer, this is just done so I can better categorize where the feedback is coming from ^^)


Players: (In either BIG LEAGUE or TINY LEAGUE)

• What interested you about OBNC that made you want to participate? 4v4, nomad, casual vibe, random civs, etc.?
• Did you like the format of the tournament (2 GSL-style groups and single elim semis + finals)?
• How was the length of the tournament? OBNC lasted about 1 month for BIG LEAGUE, and a bit longer for TINY LEAGUE. Was it too long, too short, just right?
• How easy to understand were the tournament settings? Maps, in-game settings, nomad-specific rules, etc.? Also, if there was confusion, was assistance from the organizer and admins helpful?
• Did you like the maps? Was there a good balance and variety between the map types?
• What did you think of random civs? Did it work for a 4v4 nomad tournament?
• What did you think of scheduling format (i.e. on Discord as opposed to AoEZone)? Was it easier, harder, or about the same when it came to figuring out who you were playing and when?
• Fundamentally, did you find the tournament to have enough competitive integrity? (was this a legitimate skill-based competition)? Equally as important, did you find the tournament to be fun?
• Were the tournament's admins helpful in facilitating games, resolving disputes, and answering questions?
• What is the most important thing you would change, if anything, for a hypothetical OBNC 2?

Viewers:

• Did you find OBNC to be an interesting concept? Did the tournament's settings (4v4, nomad maps, random civs) feel fresh and unique compared to all of the other events going on in AoE2 right now?
• Were the tournament settings easy to understand, and were any questions readily answered?
• Was the tournament schedule easy to follow? The event was Tuesdays and Thursdays at 16 GMT for the month of August, with the finals being the Sunday after the semis concluded.
• How did you find the tournament's length? OBNC lasted about 1 month for BIG LEAGUE, and a bit longer for TINY LEAGUE. Was it long enough to keep you interested; did it feel like the tournament dragged on for too long?
• How well advertised was the tournament? Did you know it was happening? Was there a platform that could have been utilized better when it came to spreading tournament information?
• What made you tune in to an OBNC match, and what made you tune out (or not tune in)?
• What is the most important thing you would change, if anything, for a hypothetical OBNC 2?

Thank you in advance for the feedback, and stay tuned for the conclusion of TINY LEAGUE!

 

[uberkerl]

hey a post so ornlu doesnt feel bad.

 

[TurboNoob]

Hey!

 

[Paint]

I like all the settings and maps but sadly the tournament kind of went unnoticed (at least by me) because there where no players livestreaming there pov.

 

[ACCM]

• What interested you about OBNC that made you want to participate? Random Civil
• Did you like the format of the tournament (2 GSL-style groups and single elim semis + finals)? Yes
• How was the length of the tournament? OBNC lasted about 1 month for BIG LEAGUE, and a bit longer for TINY LEAGUE. Was it too long, too short, just right? Its OK
• How easy to understand were the tournament settings? Maps, in-game settings, nomad-specific rules, etc.? Also, if there was confusion, was assistance from the organizer and admins helpful? I'm a little bit confusing about the tc can shoot villagers rule. Admin is really nice
• Did you like the maps? Was there a good balance and variety between the map types? Its fun
• What did you think of random civs? Did it work for a 4v4 nomad tournament? I think random civil can be relax tournament, we're not know anyone civ there's no mirror matchup is funy tbh
• What did you think of scheduling format (i.e. on Discord as opposed to AoEZone)? Was it easier, harder, or about the same when it came to figuring out who you were playing and when? Yes
• Fundamentally, did you find the tournament to have enough competitive integrity? (was this a legitimate skill-based competition)? Equally as important, did you find the tournament to be fun? Yes everyone playing for the win and again its really fun
• Were the tournament's admins helpful in facilitating games, resolving disputes, and answering questions? Sure
• What is the most important thing you would change, if anything, for a hypothetical OBNC 2? I dont know yet, but i think Random civ then switch civ, then random again?

 

[RobChang]

• What is the most important thing you would change, if anything, for a hypothetical OBNC 2? I dont know yet, but i think Random civ then switch civ, then random again?

I agree, most potential in OBNC2 would be in restricting Random civ a bit. Having same civ compositions twice can feel a bit repetitive because then you have half of the series the same cohesive effects of teams, but maybe something like Random pick no repeat could work, even though currently not possible, but with quiver as its in progress it could be possible as I heard when announced. Or some rules regarding that teams are allowed to pick one civ every game from a draft and rest will go random. There are some ideas how to keep the random nature of the tournament but also giving it some more fair and strategic twist I think.

 

[PROject_Belgium]

For me (a big nomad fan) the tournament was perfect. The map pool was fine, except the map compass wasn't liked by many. prob the least played map of the tourney.

 

[FolderOfDoom]

For me (a big nomad fan) the tournament was perfect. The map pool was fine, except the map compass wasn't liked by many. prob the least played map of the tourney.

funnily enough it wa srealy disliked in BigLeague put picked almost each series (also often early on) in TinyLeague ^^

Ig the big factor was the bad trade in late game ?? Else it kinda realy alike to Decentering.

Maybe you could tell us what you didnt like about that map so we can get some input on that ??

 

[FolderOfDoom]

I like all the settings and maps but sadly the tournament kind of went unnoticed (at least by me) because there where no players livestreaming there pov.

Unfortunally its just not realy possible to do such TG tourneys with player POV as it spoils results before the casters can even cast the games themself. We tried to do some live streams so player could stream POV in the play offs for BigLeague but didnt work out that well (1 of 3 only) cause sheduling 8 players and 1 or more casters all around the world for a common time is damn hard

But i think we should have done more to get a bunch of little streamers/caster to also stream the rec's and more advertisement of upcoming streams on various platforms to spread the word^^

 

[Lord_patito]

• Did you find OBNC to be an interesting concept? Did the tournament's settings (4v4, nomad maps, random civs) feel fresh and unique compared to all of the other events going on in AoE2 right now? Yes, I really liked the random civ idea. I don't fancy nomad that much, but the map where quite different one from the other, and that keep things fresh
• Were the tournament settings easy to understand, and were any questions readily answered? Yes, was not thst difficult to undestand
• Was the tournament schedule easy to follow? The event was Tuesdays and Thursdays at 16 GMT for the month of August, with the finals being the Sunday after the semis concluded. Didn't followed live, sorry
• How did you find the tournament's length? OBNC lasted about 1 month for BIG LEAGUE, and a bit longer for TINY LEAGUE. Was it long enough to keep you interested; did it feel like the tournament dragged on for too long? It was an okay duration
• How well advertised was the tournament? Did you know it was happening? Was there a platform that could have been utilized better when it came to spreading tournament information?maybe more YouTube information. Sadly, the tournament was in middle of a lot of tournaments, so it was not as noticed as it could have been
• What made you tune in to an OBNC match, and what made you tune out (or not tune in)? Random civ 4v4 is an amazing concept. Love it
• What is the most important thing you would change, if anything, for a hypothetical OBNC 2? Altough i like the randomness, some civs keep appearing a lot. I would try to find a way of keeping randomness and avoiding repeating civs 2 times in a row (specially for the same player/team)