Object & Terrain ID's for WololoKingdom

[Chrazini]

I've been making .rms for Age of Empires: HD Edition for quite some time now, and I'm currently trying to merge some of my maps to the WololoKingdoms mod. However, it seems that WololoKingdoms is using completely different ID's for every object, terrain, etc. I could go through each and every single ID to check, but since there are over a thousand ID's, I'd rather now.
Does anyone know where I can find some resources on the new constants? I'm assuming they're in the .dat file of WololoKingdom, but I can't seem to figure out how to open that file either.
Help would be appreciated.

 

[nimanoe]

I suggest you join t90s discord, he has a chat specifically for mapscripters, so I'm sure they are able to help you.

https://discord.gg/x6cMvck

 

[TriRem]

To everyone wondering, WK had to work around several limitations and change some ID for units and terrains. I've attached all the WK constants, but be aware that due to the game being limited to 41 terrains, many HD terrains can't be used sadly.

 

[Kataphraktoi]

To everyone wondering, WK had to work around several limitations and change some ID for units and terrains. I've attached all the WK constants, but be aware that due to the game being limited to 41 terrains, many HD terrains can't be used sadly.

Hi Trirem, thanks for this file. But this doesnt seem to have 878 elite boyar listed? Am I looking at it wrong?

 

[TriRem]

You are absolutely right, Forgotten Empires units aren't listed, good catch. I'll update it in a bit.

 

[Redeemer]

Five of the terrain constants are wrong, e.g. of the two terrains listed as number 11, one is 5 and the other is 27. These are the correct ones:

#const DLC_MANGROVESHALLOW 11
#const CRACKEDIT 38
#const DIRT2 27
#const DLC_JUNGLELEAVES 5
#const DIRT_SNOW 36

MIssing is:

#const ROAD_SNOW 33

Full list of terrains:

00 Grass 1
01 Water, Shallow
02 Beach
03 Dirt 3
04 Shallows
05 Leaves
06 Dirt 1
07 Farm
08 Dead Farm
09 Grass 3
10 Forest
11 Mangrove Shallows
12 Grass 2
13 Palm Desert
14 Desert
15 Water, Shoreless
16 Baobab Forest
17 Jungle
18 Bamboo
19 Pine Forest
20 Mangrove Forest
21 Snow Pine Forest
22 Water, Deep
23 Water, Medium
24 Road
25 Road, Broken
26 some sort of Ice
27 Building, ex. Dirt 2
28 Water, Shallow (Bridge)
29 Farm 1
30 Farm 2
31 Farm 3
32 Snow
33 Road, Snow
34 Snow Grass
35 some sort of Ice
36 Building (Snow)
37 some sort of Ice
38 Cracked Earth
39 Road, Fungus
40 KotH (Road, Unbuildable)
41 Acacia Forest

I do not know which ice is which, as they all look and behave the same. I assumed the posted file is correct for the ice, so it is number 35.
The ones highlighted in yellow are not accessible via a predefined name, so you must define them yourself, with the risk of no longer working if they get moved around.

 

[xThomas]

Thank you Redeemer. I was going crazy trying to figure out why I couldn't override Road Snow with my own SLP - It kept appearing as Cracked Dirt (I was using const 38, where 38 was supposed to be Snowy Road)

 

[Henkdesupernerd]

Thank you Redeemer. I was going crazy trying to figure out why I couldn't override Road Snow with my own SLP - It kept appearing as Cracked Dirt (I was using const 38, where 38 was supposed to be Snowy Road)

Since wololokingdoms 5.7.2 some terrains where moved to make place for aditional terrains:

-Two new terrains have been added to the data file: Mangrove Shallows in Terrain slot 11 and Cracked Earth in Terrain Slot 38 (With a damage multiplier for buildings of 1.2). To make place for these terrains, Dirt2 has been removed (use the Building residue terrain 27, which has the same looks), the Snow Road terrain has been moved from 38 to 33, and the Snow Dirt terrain in 33 removed (use the Snow Residue terrain in 36, same looks).
For players and RMS scripters, you shouldn't need to care about the specifics (the internal constants have been updated accordingly). For existing scenarios, the terrains need to be switched to make them work as intended.

 

[IlPaki]

Hi guys!
It's been a while since your last chat about this Topic, but I Wonder if you could answer a question of mine.
I recently came back to playing AoE and RM scripting, And I experimented The same problem as the original poster. It's sad that The 41-terrains limit forces us to give up some of the new ones, but weirdly enough some ZR maps work anyway!
Terrains are clearly not listed in The .dat file, since I can't open The same maps in The Map Editor, but when I play Random Maps they're there and working fine!
Can someone explain?
Thanks, love

 

[Jineapple]

Hi guys!
It's been a while since your last chat about this Topic, but I Wonder if you could answer a question of mine.
I recently came back to playing AoE and RM scripting, And I experimented The same problem as the original poster. It's sad that The 41-terrains limit forces us to give up some of the new ones, but weirdly enough some ZR maps work anyway!
Terrains are clearly not listed in The .dat file, since I can't open The same maps in The Map Editor, but when I play Random Maps they're there and working fine!
Can someone explain?
Thanks, love

The trick is in the ZR@ maps. This format allows you to include .slps to override existing terrain graphics. E.g. if a map uses the moorland terrain, but doesn't use regular grass, you can replace the moorland terrain with grass, and then override the grass terrain graphic with .slp for moorland to make it look identical.

The WK installer will attempt to do this for any map in your HD random-map-scripts folder if you check the option to try converting custom HD maps. There are still limitations on it (e.g. you can't simultaenously have more than 3 different water terrains) so not all maps might be fully convertible.

 

[IlPaki]

The trick is in the ZR@ maps. This format allows you to include .slps to override existing terrain graphics. E.g. if a map uses the moorland terrain, but doesn't use regular grass, you can replace the moorland terrain with grass, and then override the grass terrain graphic with .slp for moorland to make it look identical.

The WK installer will attempt to do this for any map in your HD random-map-scripts folder if you check the option to try converting custom HD maps. There are still limitations on it (e.g. you can't simultaenously have more than 3 different water terrains) so not all maps might be fully convertible.

Thanks a lot for the answer, and by the way - terrific job on WololoKingdoms; I've been using your app since the days it even hadn't any GUI, and I must say this was the only way to play AoE without all those annoying lags'n'bugs in the HD version. I thought it and you did it, so hats off!

I see by what you said that ZR@ Maps work on their own account, using an internal override command; isn't there a way to reproduce that string in a regular RMS? I'm a very basic user, and so I make my maps manually with a simple notepad sheet.
And if not... wasn't there a program that lets you open .dat files and replace manually and permanently terrains with other .slp files? I could put in some of the new cool ones and get rid of some of the old existing ones - such as the abandoned farm terrain, which I find completely useless.
Thanks again for your kindness, cheers