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To all 1700-2000 Elo range players be careful,

While playing a ladder game this morning on stream. I came across a player known as R1sk (unsuspicious stats for a cheater) since he had 1900 Elo around 120 games played, 80 wins, and 40 losses.

After trapping his army, the lad seemed frustrated, and I suddenly had "you have been defeated" displayed on my screen without clicking anything... that feeling I had, It felt like I got robbed <.<

https://www.twitch.tv/themole67/clip/ObedientFairSwallowKeyboardCat-Yv64owiWnjP-GI9C you can straightly go to 24 seconds to see the vice.

I don't know if this player can be tracked, but be careful out there!

Cheers guys
 
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Nice trap :smile:
 
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TheMole67 said:
100 games, 80 wins, and 40 losses.
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Cheating so much he defies math.
 
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Tarsiz said:
Cheating so much he defies math.
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He even mind-tricked me, forcing me to press 2 times 0 instead of 2-0, making me look like a fool in maths.
 
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Like walling, laming, civ picking, unpausing is a part of the game, cheating will be part of the game too xD.
 
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HelloWorld said:
Like walling, laming, civ picking, unpausing is a part of the game, cheating will be part of the game too xD.
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I legit thought it was the flower-shaped balloon...
 
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100 games, 80 wins, and 40 losses.

#Math Explained -
- 80 aoe2 games with 60 wins and 20 losses.
- 20 aoe4 games with 20 wins but they count as 20 losses too because aoe4 is for losers.
 
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I legit thought it was the flower-shaped balloon...
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WRONG!!!!
 
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HelloWorld said:
Like walling, laming, civ picking, unpausing is a part of the game, cheating will be part of the game too xD.
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I feel like you will be in big trouble......
 
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I feel like you will be in big trouble......
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Yea that was sarcasm. People do all kinda things and call it as part of games. Soon we will have people saying cheating is part of game. Sad that this is becoming a thing now. Do whatever bad and say that's part of the game.
 
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Yea that was sarcasm. People do all kinda things and call it as part of games. Soon we will have people saying cheating is part of game. Sad that this is becoming a thing now. Do whatever bad and say that's part of the game.
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That's probably the worst use of sarcasm I think I've seen on this website.

Probably better suited to make this false equivalencey where the safe spaces for anti-off-meta folks exist. At least then you'll get a few chuckleheads to agree.
 
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IYIyTh said:
That's probably the worst use of sarcasm I think I've seen on this website.

Probably better suited to make this false equivalencey where the safe spaces for anti-off-meta folks exist. At least then you'll get a few chuckleheads to agree.
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Ignored this chucklehead, one less to worry about.
 
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First of all, regarding the cheat itself, well over a year ago German white hat hacking collective Red Rocket identified numerous vulnerabilities in DE which remain unsolved, many of which are legacy issues that were never dealt with over the course of 20+ years (I got to that link courtesy of simonsan, credit where it's due). Among them are several of the issues we're dealing with right now, the least harmful of which is map hacking - in practice, you can control your opponent's units, delete them, or, as our buddy here just experienced, defeat your opponent by command (akin to the "torpedo #" cheat). In other words, this is no "new" cheat, as suggested by the OP, but one that has been around since forever. It's just that those with access to it probably prefer the "fun" of toying with a helpless rival who doesn't know he's at the mercy of some cunt.

As for the identity of the cheater, it's also most likely an old acquaintance of ours. When Ertug came back to play under the name Lorenz (some high level players will remember him as a guy who popped up out of the blue with a German flag, a high rating and suspicious moves) and was trying to hide his real identity, he claimed to be R1sK, a Turkish player who was active in the HD days. Someone who was friends with R1sK back then confirmed it was not the same person (Lorenz had no knowledge of things the real R1sK would've been familiar with). In short, we're most likely dealing with Ertug yet again, who on top of being a piece of **** is apparently hopelessly uncreative.
 
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HelloWorld said:
Ignored this chucklehead, one less to worry about.
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Fits into the "people who lame and use strategies I don't like are cheaters," kind of self-censorship that people like you desire, so -- expected.
 
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IYIyTh said:
That's probably the worst use of sarcasm I think I've seen on this website.

Probably better suited to make this false equivalencey where the safe spaces for anti-off-meta folks exist. At least then you'll get a few chuckleheads to agree.
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Probably better suited to keep your snobbishness and grandiloquence to your book club. At least then you'll get a few other supercilious folks to pay heed to you.
 
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I see a few comments missing, guess someones actually in trouble 11
 
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amazing_knight said:
Probably better suited to keep your snobbishness and grandiloquence to your book club. At least then you'll get a few other supercilious folks to pay heed to you.
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So you disagree or just couldn't resist the off-topic flame?

Hope you enjoyed your thesaurus.com trek.
 
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R1sk is an old HD player who doesnt play anymore. One of the last things we heard of ertug was him impersonating r1sk to cheat with a new account. Might be ertug again
 
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R1sk is an old HD player who doesnt play anymore. One of the last things we heard of ertug was him impersonating r1sk to cheat with a new account. Might be ertug again
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this is absolutely true and there was also a clip on jonslow discord, where Darknoob asked in chat and ertug answered identifying himself as "R1sk"
 
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There are a ton of hacks out there that are public knowledge.

A well known white hat hacker team published something on the most nefarious that are impacting the game currently:

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This blog post describes my lockdown project of (partially) reversing the popular 2019 videogame Age of Empires 2: Definitive Edition. My efforts did not only educate me about lock-step simulation and 90s coding practices, but also lead to various multiplayer hacks. First I’ll give a brief...
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I palyed vs, Beno...defended pretty badly ealry castle, but i cleared his army then he with 20 eagles quite quicly with 10-15 slingers as well. when i cleared that he returned with 30 eagles 20 slingers aaaaand 30 fully upgraded swordsmen. Rec had worldtime error, which makes me more suspicious. Can players spawn res? likely i am just bad, dont have stats but ireckon 32-35min into game.
 
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Turfusflamminusmaximus said:
I palyed vs, Beno...defended pretty badly ealry castle, but i cleared his army then he with 20 eagles quite quicly with 10-15 slingers as well. when i cleared that he returned with 30 eagles 20 slingers aaaaand 30 fully upgraded swordsmen. Rec had worldtime error, which makes me more suspicious. Can players spawn res? likely i am just bad, dont have stats but ireckon 32-35min into game.
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use aoeinsights, it might have the details you seek
 
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thanks dl'd the replay still worldtime error. will ahve to give him benifit of the doubt, i did play badly
 
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Turfusflamminusmaximus said:
I palyed vs, Beno...defended pretty badly ealry castle, but i cleared his army then he with 20 eagles quite quicly with 10-15 slingers as well. when i cleared that he returned with 30 eagles 20 slingers aaaaand 30 fully upgraded swordsmen. Rec had worldtime error, which makes me more suspicious. Can players spawn res? likely i am just bad, dont have stats but ireckon 32-35min into game.
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Recs are giving that error for everyone this patch.
 
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