AOE-II Monk Macro Guy

[ImRiver]

hihi <3
Can anyone confirm that this guy (Zeitgeist__ ) is using monk macro arround min 36 to convert the woads?

EDIT: seems it's not. My mistake, sorry

 

[ImRiver]

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riEPAPATlQs

 

[Clemensor]

Wouldnt be too sure about that. Having 6 monks on individual control groups is still reasonable to assume here imo.

 

[wattle]

The monks start converting one after another, so I don't think he used a deselecting macro.
To my knowledge the typical behaviour when using a deselecting macro would be, a group of monks starting to convert all together.

 

[rmcoo]

Yeah sorry to break it, but this does not look like monk macro at all.

 

[Crysese]

seems u just got rekt sorry

 

[Influenza]

remove monks from aoc problemo solved

 

[_Melkor]

Yup its pretty clear it was just numbered monks

 

[drmrboss]

remove monks from aoc problemo solved

Make a "No monks" mod!

 

[wattle]

@Yonodigogg You probably should remove the apparently premature judgement from his voobly page

 

[ImRiver]

Yup its pretty clear it was just numbered monks

Even after watching the rec? Mmm i have to say I strongly disagree and a pal that watched it with me told me before I said anything, that this looks like monk hack too, but if most of you guys think that way we might be wrong.
Just be sure to put it at game speed when you watching.

 

[rmcoo]

Yup its pretty clear it was just numbered monks

Even after watching the rec? Mmm i have to say I strongly disagree and a pal that watched it with me told me before I said anything, that this looks like monk hack too, but if most of you guys think that way we might be wrong.
Just be sure to put it at game speed when you watching.

Dude, I even showed to couple of people and all of them were laughing at the sheer stupidity of this post. Perhaps you do not play arena but this is completely normal monk move that even most 16xx arena players could do. It may or may not be numbered monks but not even remotely close to a macro.

 

[DraCoNT]

Dude, I even showed to couple of people and all of them were laughing at the sheer stupidity of this post. Perhaps you do not play arena but this is completely normal monk move that even most 16xx arena players could do. It may or may not be numbered monks but not even remotely close to a macro.

I find this post way more stupid...

 

[ImRiver]

Yup its pretty clear it was just numbered monks

Even after watching the rec? Mmm i have to say I strongly disagree and a pal that watched it with me told me before I said anything, that this looks like monk hack too, but if most of you guys think that way we might be wrong.
Just be sure to put it at game speed when you watching.

Dude, I even showed to couple of people and all of them were laughing at the sheer stupidity of this post. Perhaps you do not play arena but this is completely normal monk move that even most 16xx arena players could do. It may or may not be numbered monks but not even remotely close to a macro.

I don't play arena, so forgive my ignorance in the topic. And I already said its obvious it's not the same macro. I would honestly not be so sure that it isn't. You and your friends are pretty special if the laughed from this, I would recommend that you find a good psychiatrist. A 16xx can't do this, of that I'm sure, and you sound pretty condescending.

 

[zuviss]

seems u just got rekt sorry

1111

 

[rmcoo]

You should play arena on the other hand. Your very grown up response while not inducing any drama and blaming people for cheating without having any actual proof? Yeah, perfect fit for an arena player.

Bonus: https://clips.twitch.tv/CredulousVibran ... Pepperonis

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[ImRiver]

You should play arena on the other hand. Your very grown up response while not inducing any drama and blaming people for cheating without having any actual proof? Yeah, perfect fit for an arena player.

I asked for people's opinion.
"Can anyone confirm" while stating my opinion "seems obvious to me" . I didn't make a blind topic saying everyone block zeitgeist__ without rec or video. I uploaded both, so that we could discuss this as a group. On the other hand, you came and said "you laughed at my stupidity", and that I find kind of weird.

 

[rmcoo]

You should play arena on the other hand. Your very grown up response while not inducing any drama and blaming people for cheating without having any actual proof? Yeah, perfect fit for an arena player.

I asked for people's opinion.
"Can anyone confirm" while stating my opinion "seems obvious to me" . I didn't make a blind topic saying everyone block zeitgeist__ without rec or video. I uploaded both, so that we could discuss this as a group. On the other hand, you came and said "you laughed at my stupidity", and that I find kind of weird.

If you are putting so much emphasis on quoting, you might as well not add quotation marks to an extract of my sentence that is not even correct.

 

[MrIster24]

stop arguing. clearly not a macro. gg go next.

 

[miguelzin]

You should play arena on the other hand. Your very grown up response while not inducing any drama and blaming people for cheating without having any actual proof? Yeah, perfect fit for an arena player.

I asked for people's opinion.
"Can anyone confirm" while stating my opinion "seems obvious to me" . I didn't make a blind topic saying everyone block zeitgeist__ without rec or video. I uploaded both, so that we could discuss this as a group. On the other hand, you came and said "you laughed at my stupidity", and that I find kind of weird.

When you say that seemed obvious for you he was using the macro means you didnt even watch how the macro works.

 

[_Melkor]

River, you can see in the video that each monk started converting a brief moment after the one before.
This is very typical when you have your monks numbered under control groups 2-3-4-5-6-7-8.
He sees your woads and simply taps those numbers, and then the woads.
If he was using a monk macro, all the monks would start converting at the same time, and then they would start deselecting to target different units. This would appear as all monks facing one direction and waving, and then suddenly one by one facing different directions.
It is very very clear that it was just numbered monks 11

 

[ImRiver]

I didn't know there was a single option for a macro that could eventually work to micro monks, I thought it was just one example, and that some other ways may appear with time. I suppose I was wrong, my bad, cheers!

 

[futhark1]

If he was using a monk macro, all the monks would start converting at the same time, and then they would start deselecting to target different units. This would appear as all monks facing one direction and waving, and then suddenly one by one facing different directions.

Isnt slam exaclty doing this - with pure micro?

https://clips.twitch.tv/FairCheerfulCobblerUWot

https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingCre ... garMingLee

 

[Jineapple]

If he was using a monk macro, all the monks would start converting at the same time, and then they would start deselecting to target different units. This would appear as all monks facing one direction and waving, and then suddenly one by one facing different directions.

Isnt slam exaclty doing this - with pure micro?

https://clips.twitch.tv/FairCheerfulCobblerUWot

https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingCre ... garMingLee

Well both tactics can be done manually or with macros. The difference is that if you're using a macro, it makes more sense to use deselecting (and we do know a macro exists for that). So, someone using deselecting isn't proof they're using a macro, but if they're not using deselecting, that makes it unlikely that they're using a macro.

 

[_Melkor]

If he was using a monk macro, all the monks would start converting at the same time, and then they would start deselecting to target different units. This would appear as all monks facing one direction and waving, and then suddenly one by one facing different directions.

Isnt slam exaclty doing this - with pure micro?

https://clips.twitch.tv/FairCheerfulCobblerUWot

https://clips.twitch.tv/EntertainingCre ... garMingLee

It depends on the speed at which monks start looking different directions. The macro simply allows you to keep your mouse fixed on the enemy units; you click on an enemy than press the macro key which deselects the monk, and then click on the next unit. This allows you to convert different units at the speed that numbering monks allows you to do; but the big differences are that you can have all monks under group 1, instead of all nine numbers, and all of them start converting immediately, which allows for faster conversion time.
What slam is doing is probably a lot slower than the monks in rivers video, due to having to click on the monk for deselection and then go back to click on enemy units.