Point taken.. However, you need hussars/camels or champs to take on siege.. Eh Mongol has OP siege themselves..SOs with HCA on the back and some pikes in front can do the trick as well..
Agreed!
Point taken.. However, you need hussars/camels or champs to take on siege.. Eh Mongol has OP siege themselves..SOs with HCA on the back and some pikes in front can do the trick as well..
No, they don't talk like they know everything, they share part of their AoC experience, and I appreciate they're trying to contribute with something, unlike you that most of the times only post stupid comments.SERIOUSLY! everyone who makes a topic that is relating to skill you will have : goobvelt/noobslayer,guignol,philippe le bon and some other 14xx-15xx's talking like they know everything about the game.. i'd wish that everyone who made these kind of topics would add a :no 15xx's!
You should carefully read what others post otherwise you'll misunderstand. I didn't say they'll lose without Mangudai, I said they'll suck. It's different... Playing "Viking" style is the same as sucking because Vikings just suck eventually.Even "Viking Style" (without any cavalry at all) Siege Rams w/drill + Arbalest + FU Champs, Mongols aren't bad at all
I bet Carlos even with Mongols will make Champs in imp cause they're FU
EDIT: In fact whatever you do Mongols are GREAT in Imperial, a bit shabby in early Imp but once you got rolling they just rock, gold or not. In pure trash wars Spanish are still #1 but for the rest, if a Mongol survive till Imp w/ a good eco, it's gg, especially in Ara/Nomad TG's with a Mongol pocket it's just insane 11111
The only situations a Mongol player shouldn't produce Mangudai is if he against Goths or Persians. Against Goths you'd prefer to make Champions and agaisnt Persians you'd prefer to make Heavy Camels.Yes, no-one is denying that. Just trying to say that the Mangudai is not Mongols only option, it is just their most commonly used (and "best" option). Their Cav Archers still fire faster than regular ones, still get Parthian tactics, they're by no means a replacement for Mangudai, but still good in their own right if for some reason you haven't got any castles yet.
No, they don't talk like they know everything, they share part of their AoC experience, and I appreciate they're trying to contribute with something, unlike you that most of the times only post stupid comments.SERIOUSLY! everyone who makes a topic that is relating to skill you will have : goobvelt/noobslayer,guignol,philippe le bon and some other 14xx-15xx's talking like they know everything about the game.. i'd wish that everyone who made these kind of topics would add a :no 15xx's!
Knowledge doesn't depend on rating, a 16++ or 19++ guy can both know the same things, but the 19++ plays better, has higher mouse and keyboard speed. This doesn't mean that all the arguments of the 19++ guy are superior than the 16++. I'm not gonna wait until 19++ to starting posting and sharing what I learned. During 9 months of online play, I never watched any rec game where a Mongol player didn't produce Mangudai, they always go for it.
You should carefully read what others post otherwise you'll misunderstand. I didn't say they'll lose without Mangudai, I said they'll suck. It's different... Playing "Viking" style is the same as sucking because Vikings just suck eventually.Even "Viking Style" (without any cavalry at all) Siege Rams w/drill + Arbalest + FU Champs, Mongols aren't bad at all
I bet Carlos even with Mongols will make Champs in imp cause they're FU
EDIT: In fact whatever you do Mongols are GREAT in Imperial, a bit shabby in early Imp but once you got rolling they just rock, gold or not. In pure trash wars Spanish are still #1 but for the rest, if a Mongol survive till Imp w/ a good eco, it's gg, especially in Ara/Nomad TG's with a Mongol pocket it's just insane 11111
The only situations a Mongol player shouldn't produce Mangudai is if he against Goths or Persians. Against Goths you'd prefer to make Champions and agaisnt Persians you'd prefer to make Heavy Camels.Yes, no-one is denying that. Just trying to say that the Mangudai is not Mongols only option, it is just their most commonly used (and "best" option). Their Cav Archers still fire faster than regular ones, still get Parthian tactics, they're by no means a replacement for Mangudai, but still good in their own right if for some reason you haven't got any castles yet.
Not a good idea!Against Goths you'd prefer to make Champions
fireboy, whocares is a troll, why do you not detect trolling at first sight
mong cavaliers suck
nope i almost never trolled on an actual game.. except that game when i went drush as pocket.. and the other game when i went scouts as pocket.. and the other game when i.. i think i went for every unit as pocket :D
and this is why you dont want 14xx's talking on your topic! goths is.. kinda unstopable.. but sure yeah try and go champs vs goth with any civ.. except goths ofc.. you're going to get raped ^^
- they are good- bloodline.mong cavaliers suck
No, having bloodline doesn't mean they don't die really fast to arbs and even tc...
No, having bloodline doesn't mean they don't die really fast to arbs and even tc...
They lack the last armour upgrade as well don't they? Bloddlines is a welcome boost, but in the majority of cases Mong Cavs are outclassed.
They could probably make an even match for FU Saracen Knights :P
No, having bloodline doesn't mean they don't die really fast to arbs and even tc...
They lack the last armour upgrade as well don't they? Bloddlines is a welcome boost, but in the majority of cases Mong Cavs are outclassed.
They could probably make an even match for FU Saracen Knights :P
Saracen FU Knight => + 1 melee armor
Mongol Cavalier => +20 HP, +2 attack
"an even match"
Yeah ofc they miss last armour thats why I said Mong bad cavs xD
SERIOUSLY! everyone who makes a topic that is relating to skill you will have : guignol talking like they know everything about the game.. i'd wish that everyone who made these kind of topics would add a :no 15xx's!