I guess he was playing with his mouse only
I guess he was playing with his mouse only
Goths can't rape plume+eew? The ****? Goth can rape that using only spammed husks
I don't think Mayans counter Brits very well.LGBM outranges plummies and can make quite good work of EEWs from a distance if they are shielded by skirms/champs.
Celts with siege rams+onnies+woad raiders(+scorpion?) should screw Mayans.Ram attracts plumie fire,woads kill eagles trying to destroy rams,onnies kill archers.
Byzantines:MASSED(a looooooot of) skirms+Paladins/Cataphracts+onagers
Plums rape. They're so cheap, so quickly massed, have such high rate of fire that they chew right through stuff that are supposed to counter them like eagles and siege.
There is a recent mayan war game of Hasan vs Monoz that demonstrates that. Both boomed, Hasan went eew and Monoz went eplums. Hasan raided Monoz heavily while avoiding the mass of plums, decimating his population. But Monoz kept on fighting and eventually Hasan ran out of gold. In the big deciding battle e plums won against 100 hp eew and capped rams. Monoz was not even leading economically, his eco suffered badly. But he had that big mass of plums and gold left to mine (he didn't control more mines either, it's just plums are so cheap plus the mayan bonus).
100 hp eagles don't cut it, let alone aztec ones. Aztecs have no answer to eplums.
In 1 v 1 when pop is seldom really capped e plums beat e mangs imo. One has to consider the ease to set them up. Mongols take forever to set up those castle and upgrade the expensive e mang tech. Mayans can make plums straight from the castle age. They just need to add castles and upgrade the elite tech, which is not too expensive (food heavy). Mongols can't do that, mangudais in their normal form just don't cut it (plums on the other hand are strong in castle). They have to transition from xbow or kts. In a 1 v 1, the mongol player would be swarmed by eplums when he gets out emangs. Eplums also cost half as much as emangs and are just as sturdy (even sturdier vs arrows). You can run elums into building fire to kill vils. Emangs are too expensive and frail for that.
Plums also mess a lot of civs up. Turks gunpowder and hussars are supposed to be super strong yet plums mess them up. Non-goth infantry civs can't use their infantry (celts can't flood woads and halbs, japs can't do sams). They don't even fear mangonel line as much as other archers. Massed skirms and rams just invites those 100 hp monsters that mayans also have. IMO mayan imp army is the strongest in 1 v 1 ara. Plums are OP imo.
@ MassBerserks
I agree to all of your list, very well thought of!
Only thing I'd change is Maya=Jap, but that's only imo.