To the WCL7 Tournament Sponsors and Fans of AoC,
I would just like to shed some light on the competitive landscape that has arisen as part of this tournament. I think that anyone who is thinking of sponsoring this tournament or is an AoC fan that will watch the games that come out of it should be aware of what's happening.
This is all quoted out of an MSN chat I've had with kkab.
"Chris says:
hey
HeeSang says:
hello
Chris says:
kkab?
HeeSang says:
ya
Chris says:
: )
HeeSang says:
which one chris?..
Chris says:
L_Clan
HeeSang says:
..
i c
too much friend used chris nick lol
Chris says:
there are too many of us
HeeSang says:
ya
Chris says:
we are taking over the world
HeeSang says:
Chris says:
did you see that we will have another WCL?
HeeSang says:
yai got ur messege.
Chris says:
=]
all 3 of us would like for you to join us
HeeSang says:
grunt and halen and i is thinking play wcl again or not .
thats why i couldnt repley ur messege
Chris says:
which we cant really say of anyone else haha
yeah i heard the rumour
we were hoping to steal you first
HeeSang says:
......
i want steal you first lol"
So first off, I've been looking for a 4th player since you never know if we will get stuck with 3 and then find out 4 of the 7 games are 4vs4. I still have yet to decide on one. We decided to ask kkab, and then after him, daut.
"HeeSang says:
we dont want play tourament anymore. bcuz as u know.. we r all working full time.
but someone suggestion great sponsor to us.
nah
it doesnt decide all yet.
i cant say anything.
Chris says:
ive heard it from some other players too
HeeSang says:
but sponsor promised
i refused his suggstion when i heard it first time
Chris says:
what did he offer you?
HeeSang says:
all bsk member earn at least 5k$ monthly salary
our life is all ok now. and wcl would be let us again "no sleep" , "no weekend life " and so on.
i can tell just " we promised reward if we play wcl7"
"
I then asked:
"
Chris says:
is it
**deleted** sponsors want to remain anonymous
HeeSang says:
2
he isnt
"
We chatted a bit about who it was, and he let me know but I will not reveal here as sponsor still wants to remain anonymous.
"HeeSang says:
he will donations 5k$
and karl would be gather 5k$ more donation.
therefore i expect it would be 10,000$
and 1st prize would be 4,000$ then
its too small.
we arent young as 10 years ago.
thats why i refused first time
"
Kkab is talking about why he won't play in tournament. Apparently $4000 and some fame isn't enough incentive for him.
"
HeeSang says:
wcl is big stress to us. 1st reason : tourament always start when 00:30am here. 2nd reason : our 07:00~11:00pm has only 200~300 newbie player at voobly. we cant practice this time. therefore we may practice over 00:30 as wcl1,2,3,4.
i couldnt sleep before 05:00am for 2 yeras.
its big stress..
Chris says:
yeah
HeeSang says:
money isnt problem sure.
Chris says:
if u played with us
u wouldnt need stress! kaka
HeeSang says:
.......
Chris says:
we are already all in good form
alive is improving lately too
i am very happy with that
HeeSang says:
there is class as you know.
player can be improve. but cant over class -.-
alive and ruso r good player sure.
Chris says:
ruso can be top class
and alive is getting there
HeeSang says:
they can win you 1v1 even improve much skills?.. i dont think that -.-
Chris says:
ruso
always kicks my ass on fr maps
11
"
Nice try with the intimidation kkab =]
"
Chris says:
k
are you saying "no" to joining us? I do need to know because there is 1 more player we might try to recruit today if you turn us down ~_~
HeeSang says:
i will play with bsk or dont play wcl.
sorry
sponsor
suggestion great deal to me -.-
Chris says:
yeah
HeeSang says:
u will suprise if u heard condtion
Chris says:
i also heard there is a prize for wcl
to go to dubai
~_~
HeeSang says:
2
not just it to us 11
one more special things here -.-
we never think about that if he suggestion just dubai tour and prize -.-
"
Hey, ermmm, kkab, did you just tell me that you are getting a special deal for playing in this tournament? Doesn't that skew the fairness of it? Or are you just making that up to try and intimidate me some more?
After this, I knew kkab wouldn't play with us, and our next prospect for a fourth player was Daut. So I asked Daut if he would like to play with us - he has been good friends with me and Ruso for a long time even if he has had altercations with Legion in the past. He said yes to us and agreed we would make a clan in such a way that he isn't a legion player and we can still use our legion nicks. We started planning our strategies.
Later on that day, Daut sent me a message, "Sorry, I can't play with you guys I'm joining kkab's team" I was pretty blindsided - earlier on that day he agreed to play with us. What would make him change his mind from playing with his friends on a team that handily won WCL6? Naturally, I was very curious. Maybe kkab wasn't lieing about a side sponsorship deal.
So I decided to message him again:
"Chris says:
dont steal my daut!
11
i have already lost enough potential prospects to sponsorship $$$ 11
"
Chris says:
asked riut and dogao to join
HeeSang says:
i dont like them
Chris says:
they are different
not like old school aocers
HeeSang says:
i dont think skills decide winner -.-
winner was practice guy all the aoc history
Chris says:
winner will just bewhichever team practices together
HeeSang says:
1
Chris says:
of course, and tourney isnt so big so most teams wont practice
HeeSang says:
we will start practice 10+hours everyday again
Chris says:
at $10 000/4 = $2500
HeeSang says:
hehe
Chris says:
its not worth for me to practice at all
HeeSang says:
i offer enough money about my monthly salary
and he promised
thats all
Chris says:
but why he chose to sponsor anyone?
in my opinion that is an unfair advantage
to make enough $$ to train full time haha
HeeSang says:
1
but its whole history world -.-
"
WHAT!? Did I just hear that right? Kkab you are telling me that you are being sponsored enough to play AoC full time?
In my opinion all potential donators/sponsors of the tournament should be aware of this fact. If you are going to donate - you should know ahead of time that there is a team that is being paid to play in it. I'm sure that would influence people's decisions as to whether or not to donate.
I would just like to shed some light on the competitive landscape that has arisen as part of this tournament. I think that anyone who is thinking of sponsoring this tournament or is an AoC fan that will watch the games that come out of it should be aware of what's happening.
This is all quoted out of an MSN chat I've had with kkab.
"Chris says:
hey
HeeSang says:
hello
Chris says:
kkab?
HeeSang says:
ya
Chris says:
: )
HeeSang says:
which one chris?..
Chris says:
L_Clan
HeeSang says:
..
i c
too much friend used chris nick lol
Chris says:
there are too many of us
HeeSang says:
ya
Chris says:
we are taking over the world
HeeSang says:
Chris says:
did you see that we will have another WCL?
HeeSang says:
yai got ur messege.
Chris says:
=]
all 3 of us would like for you to join us
HeeSang says:
grunt and halen and i is thinking play wcl again or not .
thats why i couldnt repley ur messege
Chris says:
which we cant really say of anyone else haha
yeah i heard the rumour
we were hoping to steal you first
HeeSang says:
......
i want steal you first lol"
So first off, I've been looking for a 4th player since you never know if we will get stuck with 3 and then find out 4 of the 7 games are 4vs4. I still have yet to decide on one. We decided to ask kkab, and then after him, daut.
"HeeSang says:
we dont want play tourament anymore. bcuz as u know.. we r all working full time.
but someone suggestion great sponsor to us.
nah
it doesnt decide all yet.
i cant say anything.
Chris says:
ive heard it from some other players too
HeeSang says:
but sponsor promised
i refused his suggstion when i heard it first time
Chris says:
what did he offer you?
HeeSang says:
all bsk member earn at least 5k$ monthly salary
our life is all ok now. and wcl would be let us again "no sleep" , "no weekend life " and so on.
i can tell just " we promised reward if we play wcl7"
"
I then asked:
"
Chris says:
is it
**deleted** sponsors want to remain anonymous
HeeSang says:
2
he isnt
"
We chatted a bit about who it was, and he let me know but I will not reveal here as sponsor still wants to remain anonymous.
"HeeSang says:
he will donations 5k$
and karl would be gather 5k$ more donation.
therefore i expect it would be 10,000$
and 1st prize would be 4,000$ then
its too small.
we arent young as 10 years ago.
thats why i refused first time
"
Kkab is talking about why he won't play in tournament. Apparently $4000 and some fame isn't enough incentive for him.
"
HeeSang says:
wcl is big stress to us. 1st reason : tourament always start when 00:30am here. 2nd reason : our 07:00~11:00pm has only 200~300 newbie player at voobly. we cant practice this time. therefore we may practice over 00:30 as wcl1,2,3,4.
i couldnt sleep before 05:00am for 2 yeras.
its big stress..
Chris says:
yeah
HeeSang says:
money isnt problem sure.
Chris says:
if u played with us
u wouldnt need stress! kaka
HeeSang says:
.......
Chris says:
we are already all in good form
alive is improving lately too
i am very happy with that
HeeSang says:
there is class as you know.
player can be improve. but cant over class -.-
alive and ruso r good player sure.
Chris says:
ruso can be top class
and alive is getting there
HeeSang says:
they can win you 1v1 even improve much skills?.. i dont think that -.-
Chris says:
ruso
always kicks my ass on fr maps
11
"
Nice try with the intimidation kkab =]
"
Chris says:
k
are you saying "no" to joining us? I do need to know because there is 1 more player we might try to recruit today if you turn us down ~_~
HeeSang says:
i will play with bsk or dont play wcl.
sorry
sponsor
suggestion great deal to me -.-
Chris says:
yeah
HeeSang says:
u will suprise if u heard condtion
Chris says:
i also heard there is a prize for wcl
to go to dubai
~_~
HeeSang says:
2
not just it to us 11
one more special things here -.-
we never think about that if he suggestion just dubai tour and prize -.-
"
Hey, ermmm, kkab, did you just tell me that you are getting a special deal for playing in this tournament? Doesn't that skew the fairness of it? Or are you just making that up to try and intimidate me some more?
After this, I knew kkab wouldn't play with us, and our next prospect for a fourth player was Daut. So I asked Daut if he would like to play with us - he has been good friends with me and Ruso for a long time even if he has had altercations with Legion in the past. He said yes to us and agreed we would make a clan in such a way that he isn't a legion player and we can still use our legion nicks. We started planning our strategies.
Later on that day, Daut sent me a message, "Sorry, I can't play with you guys I'm joining kkab's team" I was pretty blindsided - earlier on that day he agreed to play with us. What would make him change his mind from playing with his friends on a team that handily won WCL6? Naturally, I was very curious. Maybe kkab wasn't lieing about a side sponsorship deal.
So I decided to message him again:
"Chris says:
dont steal my daut!
11
i have already lost enough potential prospects to sponsorship $$$ 11
"
Chris says:
asked riut and dogao to join
HeeSang says:
i dont like them
Chris says:
they are different
not like old school aocers
HeeSang says:
i dont think skills decide winner -.-
winner was practice guy all the aoc history
Chris says:
winner will just bewhichever team practices together
HeeSang says:
1
Chris says:
of course, and tourney isnt so big so most teams wont practice
HeeSang says:
we will start practice 10+hours everyday again
Chris says:
at $10 000/4 = $2500
HeeSang says:
hehe
Chris says:
its not worth for me to practice at all
HeeSang says:
i offer enough money about my monthly salary
and he promised
thats all
Chris says:
but why he chose to sponsor anyone?
in my opinion that is an unfair advantage
to make enough $$ to train full time haha
HeeSang says:
1
but its whole history world -.-
"
WHAT!? Did I just hear that right? Kkab you are telling me that you are being sponsored enough to play AoC full time?
In my opinion all potential donators/sponsors of the tournament should be aware of this fact. If you are going to donate - you should know ahead of time that there is a team that is being paid to play in it. I'm sure that would influence people's decisions as to whether or not to donate.