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AOE-II DE ️Improved AoE2 DE Performance by +218 Benchmark Points

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Hello again,

I made this thread Tool to Improve Performance & Responsiveness Of Age of Empires II DE two weeks ago on how I improved my benchmark score from 1000 to 1114 using my old Nvidia GT630M.

Well this time and using the latest Sensei DE along with a trick I explained in this video



️I managed to hit "1218" benchmark points .. Such benchmark is almost impossible to achieve with very old and low end graphics cards as mine.​


Again the aim of all this is to give players with bad computers a chance to join multiplayer and most importantly help those who lag multiplayer TEAMGAMES so we all enjoy the game without lag.

If you're a minimalist nerd join our endless journey to improve AoE2 DE benchmark. Share your benchmark with us in aoezone.net if possible.

Link to Sensei DE Tool:
https://github.com/gregstein/SenseiDE/releases

EDIT:

NEW UPDATE: (Sensei DE 2.2)

>LINK: Sensei DE 2.2 - Custom AoE2DE Path + Windows 8 Compatible now!

  • Added Compatibility to Windows 8.
  • Custom Game Path is Possible Now.
sensei2.2.jpg
 
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Your work is amazing! Thanks for everything you've done to the community.
 
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andreskbr said:
Your work is amazing! Thanks for everything you've done to the community.
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Thank you for the kind words Adres!
 
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Also thanks for the great tool! I had computer lag since I have to play on my laptop now, and your tool helped get rid of that, it runs mostly smooth now.
 
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daehiise said:
Also thanks for the great tool! I had computer lag since I have to play on my laptop now, and your tool helped get rid of that, it runs mostly smooth now.
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So glad to hear that @daehiise And thank you! it matters to hear your voice ❤️
 
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How is that possible? Reddit thought me you need alot of resources and people to perfect a game - and even big ass companies cant afford that. kappa :wink:
Thanks man. In the future when someone talks about 'devs' I will think about you. All the patched we had yet cant reach the value of your work.

Edit: maybe you can work on these two new useless civs too? :P

2.Edit: Wow even this ugly ass UI has finally some decent speed. thanks man. When we talk about the interface already - is it possible to change the new one? I hate it so much and would love to see the old menu interface back.
 
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otw_Da said:
How is that possible? Reddit thought me you need alot of resources and people to perfect a game - and even big ass companies cant afford that. kappa :wink:
Thanks man. In the future when someone talks about 'devs' I will think about you. All the patched we had yet cant reach the value of your work.

Edit: maybe you can work on these two new useless civs too? :P

2.Edit: Wow even this ugly ass UI has finally some decent speed. thanks man. When we talk about the interface already - is it possible to change the new one? I hate it so much and would love to see the old menu interface back.
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Anytime brother <3 You can grab the old menu as a mod from here: https://www.ageofempires.com/mods/details/19346/
 
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Gregstein said:
along with a trick I explained in this video
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Watched the video... whats the trick? lower windows resolution? I dont get it... jeez that was lame
Thank you for updating the tool anyways
 
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Small issue came up for me after installing. I use a cursor lock (DMT) with dual monitor setup while playing. After installing the performance enhancing software (is this legal? :smile: ) the cursor lock doesn't work on the screen with DE open (only the other). Not sure what causes this and haven't found a way around it yet.

Also, when the game closes, if the Sensei software is still open Steam hangs and DE doesn't fully close (you have to close Sensei before you can reopen DE in Steam). This might be intentional though.

Edit: The cursor problem seems to be fixed by not using the "disable full screen optimization" and "run as admin" mode, and "override high dpi". If I had to guess the first of these is the cause.
 
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Small issue came up for me after installing. I use a cursor lock (DMT) with dual monitor setup while playing. After installing the performance enhancing software (is this legal? :smile: ) the cursor lock doesn't work on the screen with DE open (only the other). Not sure what causes this and haven't found a way around it yet.

Also, when the game closes, if the Sensei software is still open Steam hangs and DE doesn't fully close (you have to close Sensei before you can reopen DE in Steam). This might be intentional though.

Edit: The cursor problem seems to be fixed by not using the "disable full screen optimization" and "run as admin" mode, and "override high dpi". If I had to guess the first of these is the cause.
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I should be the "Run as admin". Why don't you use the native "Clamp mouse to window" in aoe2 de settings instead of DMT? Anyways running DMT as admin should solve the problem. Same thing applies to obs if you wish to record or stream.

Also once you're done with Sensei DE; Close it immediately then run the game. And don't worry this tool is completely static and portable. It does not touch the system in anyway and of course you can turn on/off everything since it remembers all changes you made.
 
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IRC_tomate said:
Watched the video... whats the trick? lower windows resolution? I dont get it... jeez that was lame
Thank you for updating the tool anyways
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Sorry if you found it lame :confused: the trick is lowering the resolution + increasing the zoom level to custom values that de do not allow through the settings.
 
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Sorry if you found it lame :confused: the trick is lowering the resolution + increasing the zoom level to custom values that de do not allow through the settings.
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The zoom hack is not explained in the video right? Sounds like it is the solution to what I've asked in your other thread.
 
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@Gregstein @Ayase_Chihaya hey, you guys mean lowering the games internal rendering resolution so to say but with maintaining the same zoom levels? because the other way its pretty obvious and there is no trick, less resolution (more zoomed) = more performance
 
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The game is so fooken smooth on Hearttt's stream. Amazing work.
 
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IRC_tomate said:
@Gregstein @Ayase_Chihaya hey, you guys mean lowering the games internal rendering resolution so to say but with maintaining the same zoom levels? because the other way its pretty obvious and there is no trick, less resolution (more zoomed) = more performance
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mb I must admit the video is poorly done by me hahaha.. But lowering desktop resolution + increasing ingame zoom (to get a feeling of the native resolution) was the intent. It's an obvious trick to advanced users like yourself however others may not have thought about it in that particular manner.
 
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The game is so fooken smooth on Hearttt's stream. Amazing work.
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Thank you dear ❤️! I appreciate your feedback and encouragement.
 
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Can you put instructions on OP about how to change the zoom to over 100%, or even implement it on a next version of Sensei?

I asked here as well: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/too...ss-of-age-of-empires-ii-de.174131/post-729931
 
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Ayase_Chihaya said:
Can you put instructions on OP about how to change the zoom to over 100%, or even implement it on a next version of Sensei?

I asked here as well: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/too...ss-of-age-of-empires-ii-de.174131/post-729931
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I love the idea of zooming further than 100% I will give that a shot and let you know
 
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Ayase_Chihaya said:
Can you put instructions on OP about how to change the zoom to over 100%, or even implement it on a next version of Sensei?

I asked here as well: https://www.aoezone.net/threads/too...ss-of-age-of-empires-ii-de.174131/post-729931
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This was requested a lot since the beta, especially from Enhanced Graphics Pack users @1080p, there was no answers from devs as for why this wasnt implemented.
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mb I must admit the video is poorly done by me hahaha.. But lowering desktop resolution + increasing ingame zoom (to get a feeling of the native resolution) was the intent. It's an obvious trick to advanced users like yourself however others may not have thought about it in that particular manner.
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No. Its just a clickbait for advanced users
 
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Gregstein said:
I love the idea of zooming further than 100% I will give that a shot and let you know
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Thanks man! From your exchange with tomate I thought you were already doing it, since the resolution shrink makes us limitated to how far we can zoom out. Your tool solved all performance issues on my end according to the quick test I did, even considering playing a bit again if you can sort the zooming out as well! 11
 
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thank you so much! the benchmark didnt change almost nothing, but the games feels 10 times better, and now i can stream while playing without a huge impact. again ty!
 
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thank you so much! the benchmark didnt change almost nothing, but the games feels 10 times better, and now i can stream while playing without a huge impact. again ty!
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exactly this for me!
 
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Great tool. I raised my benchmark by something around 100 with only minor changes (your general tips, disabling most effects and reducing resolution to 95%, but zooming out further). Thx!
 
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Hey @Gregstein, since devs finally fixed for me the game crashes they introduced while ago I can play again, the question is this tool patchproof? like sensei v2.1 is fine with current patch (101.101.47820.0 6624001)? thanks
 
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Hey @Gregstein, since devs finally fixed for me the game crashes they introduced while ago I can play again, the question is this tool patchproof? like sensei v2.1 is fine with current patch (101.101.47820.0 6624001)? thanks
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Yes, it's patchproof indeed. I just tested myself and double cheched the update files eveything is fine.
 
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