this is all a bit sick and it will stay this way as long as these threads continue.
So... whether you are pro or contra decisions made, just drop it and get on with the next thing
game over
Yes, I played him somes games before the tournament, right, I won most. And all what i know from thoses games, it's he was a BF player, not a true top player for many years and in any map. So how can u say he was not hiding his true skill at all dude? If he only show his bf skill and not anymap? He even didnt picked BF in our round, I don't get how he showed me his true skill really, its pure non sense .The whole idea of smurfing is to hide your true skill level from your opponents. Edie HAD PLAYED Dziam/Marillion 3 times a month prior to this argument. Dziam was not hiding his true skill at ALL from Edie. Edie is just a crying failure
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9207068
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9206994
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9207232
The reason the tournament might feel rushed is because the next tournament was supposed to be War is Coming, a Teamgame tournament. The sponsor had noticed though, that the community urged for a 1v1 tournament, so he wanted to give us a 1v1 tournament before christmas
this is all a bit sick and it will stay this way as long as these threads continue.
So... whether you are pro or contra decisions made, just drop it and get on with the next thing
game over
It looks like my words are wasted here.
I always thought the common view on Smurfing was people playing under hidden identities. Why was the Riut and dogao smurfing incident with Cain referred to as smurfing? They were not pretending to be a lesser skilled player.
I beg to differ. Consider a slightly altered version of your scenario.Now what if a 2k4 player named Player B signs in a random 2k nick and then kills the super favourite 2k4 player A at first round? Well Player A will take it as a lesson and never underestimate or play relaxed again in tournament's first rounds.
I beg to differ. Consider a slightly altered version of your scenario.Now what if a 2k4 player named Player B signs in a random 2k nick and then kills the super favourite 2k4 player A at first round? Well Player A will take it as a lesson and never underestimate or play relaxed again in tournament's first rounds.
What if, a 2k4 player named Player C signs in a random 1.8k nick and kills a 2k2 player called player D? No matter how non-relaxed he plays, he is likely to be out at first round which is not fair for him, considering that he should be getting a lesser opponent.
Smurfing AND account sharing it means sharing account and smurfing is two differents things. smurfing=playing unknow nick in previous tournament, rule prohibited sharing account but not smurf in cot both are prohibited#04. Smurfing and account sharing is not allowed.
OK. I understand.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_and_spirit_of_the_lawSome people saying that the rules should be more flexible, some saying that they should be followed to the letter...
"The letter of the law versus the spirit of the law is an idiomatic antithesis. When one obeys the letter of the law but not the spirit, one is obeying the literal interpretation of the words (the "letter") of the law, but not the intent of those who wrote the law. Conversely, when one obeys the spirit of the law but not the letter, one is doing what the authors of the law intended, though not necessarily adhering to the literal wording.
"Law" originally referred to legislative statute, but in the idiom may refer to any kind of rule. Intentionally following the letter of the law but not the spirit may be accomplished through exploiting technicalities, loopholes, and ambiguous language."
You honestly are intellectually unable to figure out if the spirit is more important than the letter?
Also, as almost everyone involved in the debate (including The Prophet) said, "smurfing" wasn't properly defined.
http://english.stackexchange.com/questi ... -come-from
"In multiplayer online gaming, the term "Smurf" (noun) is used to refer to an experienced player who creates a new account for the purposes of being matched against inexperienced players for easy wins."
That is the most common definition I found. Do you agree with it?
If "yes", is it true that if Dziam would have gotten a better seeding, he would have played against a less experienced player in the first round? Is it true that, because people didn't knew he was Dziam, he had to face a more experienced player in round 1 then if people did? If "yes", isn't this exactly the opposite of what smurfing is, because he was matched against a more experienced player?
Also, the account wasn't new.
Saying that the admins used rational thought is a disgusting insult towards every human on Earth who ever used a rational thought.
Also, I saw The Viper using the same tactic as you ("some say the decision was good, some say it wasn't"): let's not act as if it's close to 50-50. 75% disagree with the decision (123 out of 163, before the admins closed the topic). I'm not saying that just because the majority disagree, the decision is wrong, I'm just saying that it's not "some say it was good, some say it was bad", it's "25% say it was good, 75% say it was bad".
http://aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=781&t=95028&start=60
You can write your post without flaming other user of our board. It doesn't matter how well thought out your post is if you still straight out insult other user. This is a warning.
Yes, I played him somes games before the tournament, right, I won most. And all what i know from thoses games, it's he was a BF player, not a true top player for many years and in any map. So how can u say he was not hiding his true skill at all dude? If he only show his bf skill and not anymap? He even didnt picked BF in our round, I don't get how he showed me his true skill really, its pure non sense .The whole idea of smurfing is to hide your true skill level from your opponents. Edie HAD PLAYED Dziam/Marillion 3 times a month prior to this argument. Dziam was not hiding his true skill at ALL from Edie. Edie is just a crying failure
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9207068
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9206994
http://www.voobly.com/match/view/9207232
It seems people complaining admin decision, saying how can they do it to Dziam, the coolest aoc player nicest etc, rules wasnt clear. Rules are rules, and if you are not sure about the meaning you are free to ask admin.
Do you think irl if someone is known to be a very nice person, if he kill or do a crime, he wont be punished? Ofc he will be.
To be honest, I wasnt against play a rematch, that's the reason I asked Dziam if he wanted to in privat, but he refused and prefered stay out with the decision AL of admin because he accept the decition. I think admin did the right decision, because he brokes the rules, he admited it and accepted the punishment, It's not because he is Dziam that he must be privileged, someone who break rules, no matter who he is, will be punished, and thats what somes people seems don't understand.
If admin knew Marillion=Dziam, as viper/admin said, i woulndt face him in the first round.
Also, why people are keep complaining, trying to argmnt, finding excuse for Dziam, whereas he admitted what he did and accepted the decision, and even asked you to stop this annoying drama? Comon pls, no more topic or drama, it's so annoying, no one of dziam or me would went far/win the tournant anyway..
And, as TheViper said:
The reason the tournament might feel rushed is because the next tournament was supposed to be War is Coming, a Teamgame tournament. The sponsor had noticed though, that the community urged for a 1v1 tournament, so he wanted to give us a 1v1 tournament before christmas
People should be happy of having a tournament 1v1 with that money prize and with so much top expert in. Instead of talking about games already played, or talk/debat about games coming, who is going to win, analyze or just be happy, you are blaming/complaining, is that how you thanks people that made possible to have this tournament?