LN is a singular case, and atleast we have nerfed the top civ on LN that is china. Making huns competitive on LN is something beyond reach without a complete overhaul.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
LN is a singular case, and atleast we have nerfed the top civ on LN that is china. Making huns competitive on LN is something beyond reach without a complete overhaul.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
My friend, where is variety in seeing only civwars or only having azt maya hun as a serious civ choice? Where is variety in having Vikes as the only possible option on 1v1 water? Where is variety in seeing only Aztecs picked on arena?No my point was that having different civs having different strength on different maps is what keeps aoc varied, rather than having all civs being balanced on all maps.
I agree with that one, and im sorry for that. Unfortunately we had to ignore it in favour of making the game better on other maps.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
:D no need to be sorry.I agree with that one, and im sorry for that. Unfortunately we had to ignore it in favour of making the game better on other maps.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
I dont even know what you guys are talking about, but problem had never being huns, problem had always being other's civs houses, them covering only 5 pop is one of aoc's most stupid thing
3. And lets say you are late to get sheeps and didnt find forage either at start. Put a 7th villager on sheep just as chinese do virtually everytime.
1. Do some basic things right like exploring for sheep with all 3 vils instead of cutting wood with them.
2. Take 1 round of forage asap with 2 vils to get 20 food off and this problem is already solved by spending 60-65 villager seconds to take forage instead of house, before the game has even started going.
On other maps? You are balancing only arabia all other maps with this balance patch becomes crazy on who can get better civs.. Just rename already to arabia balance patch jesusMy friend, where is variety in seeing only civwars or only having azt maya hun as a serious civ choice? Where is variety in having Vikes as the only possible option on 1v1 water? Where is variety in seeing only Aztecs picked on arena?No my point was that having different civs having different strength on different maps is what keeps aoc varied, rather than having all civs being balanced on all maps.
I agree with that one, and im sorry for that. Unfortunately we had to ignore it in favour of making the game better on other maps.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
I think all the flamers, if they are playing in this tourney, will put their money where their mouth is, and decide that, despite starting with -20 food, the huns are still one of the best civs in AoB.
I think it will be very intersting to see the statistics of which civs are picked, and also the win/loss ratios of different civs. Although the results will have to be taken with a grain of salt because of the wide variety of skill levels involved.
Do elaborate on which map gets worse. You even go to the end of saying "all other maps become more unbalanced". While I do not claim that other maps got balanced, I can confidently say that we have addressed (moved in the right direction) some of the major problems in other maps Vikes OPness in water, Aztecs OPness in arena, Celt Korea Mong OPness in post-imp. Some of these problems still exist but to a lesser degree than aoc.On other maps? You are balancing only arabia all other maps with this balance patch becomes crazy on who can get better civs.. Just rename already to arabia balance patch jesusMy friend, where is variety in seeing only civwars or only having azt maya hun as a serious civ choice? Where is variety in having Vikes as the only possible option on 1v1 water? Where is variety in seeing only Aztecs picked on arena?No my point was that having different civs having different strength on different maps is what keeps aoc varied, rather than having all civs being balanced on all maps.
I agree with that one, and im sorry for that. Unfortunately we had to ignore it in favour of making the game better on other maps.huns are now even worse on ln :roll:
Michi is not a good map for 1v1 since only civs with siege onagers can cut... Huns was already hopeless in LN, and this patch makes them slightly worse (in favour of nerfing them on arabia and water maps where they are very powerful).Which maps got inbalanced? Lets see LN there is even more civs that suck on ln compared to others and huns can instantly resign if not 200ranked points ahead. Black foresh uh huh i think there is very big problems on this patch on bf. Water? Once again some civs has been made weaker on water than they already was. Got very unplayabke. Michi is even worse inbalance than in bf and huns vs any other civ now needs to be 400ranked point ahead to have any chances
Michi is not a good map for 1v1 since only civs with siege onagers can cut... Huns was already hopeless in LN, and this patch makes them slightly worse (in favour of nerfing them on arabia and water maps where they are very powerful).Which maps got inbalanced? Lets see LN there is even more civs that suck on ln compared to others and huns can instantly resign if not 200ranked points ahead. Black foresh uh huh i think there is very big problems on this patch on bf. Water? Once again some civs has been made weaker on water than they already was. Got very unplayabke. Michi is even worse inbalance than in bf and huns vs any other civ now needs to be 400ranked point ahead to have any chances
Which civs got weaker on water??? Every civ has been made better with respect to Vikes, and huns. Franks which was a hopeless civ on 1v1 water got a nice bonus with cheaper fishing ships. Koreans (another hopeless civ in 1v1) is slightly better. Goths which are another weak civ got a small bonus with cheap fireships (which were already improved). Byz have more scope since fireships are better now. We dint do anything with Teuts though.. but atleast they are less disadvantaged vs the previously OP civs on water.
Arena is another map that is very commonly played and good for 1v1 (unlike maps like Michi and LN which are way too hard to be balanced). Balance has definitely improved there.
14Go ahead. My question still remains: Which civs have got weaker on water? (you even go to the end of saying "unplayable")
Play BF non-explored. You fix all the imbalance thereafter 8-)