just to save time for every1 here, its tyrant sponsored event, adn he is not gonna be allowed to play in it.
Why do you even bother investigating his records? People who play him have themselves to blame if they get cheated, everyone knows of Ertug's past and history. He will be gone again soon enough because none of the good players will play him.
He won't ever be participating in a tournament or anything significant ever again, and that's enough for me.
No, just no. This guy is a sociopath. I only see two ways this will turn out: 1) He turns on cheat as soon as your team is against though opponents or 2) He loses/ gets DQ and decides to hack crash Voobly or ruin the tournament in any way he can.
People change. Can voobly detect if he is hacking the game somehow? If they can, then there isn't really a reason to not let him play. Unless you are still 'punishing' him somehow for his actions from several years ago?
Voting this situation is like "we should let the criminal free if everyone says its okay".Basically;nonsense.
Germans smurfing in a WorldChampionchip
if i was a cheater and would like to cheat i would have other accounts rather than getting old nickname. no sense.
Do you know that all of " yes" votes are voted by "turks" ? And none of them didnt think about ertug should be join or not.And jury system is much more complicated than just voting.Voting this situation is like "we should let the criminal free if everyone says its okay".Basically;nonsense.
Uhm sorry but this is exactly how jury system works 11.
Do you know that all of " yes" votes are voted by "turks" ? And none of them didnt think about ertug should be join or not.And jury system is much more complicated than just voting.
Voting that situation is already nonsense.The fact that all yes votes are voted by turks make that much more nonsense.Understand now ?Do you know that all of " yes" votes are voted by "turks" ? And none of them didnt think about ertug should be join or not.And jury system is much more complicated than just voting.
Uhm are turks "everyone"?
Voting that situation is already nonsense.The fact that all yes votes are voted by turks make that much more nonsense.Understand now ?Do you know that all of " yes" votes are voted by "turks" ? And none of them didnt think about ertug should be join or not.And jury system is much more complicated than just voting.
Uhm are turks "everyone"?
lavie and 8 wonder. just tell me this. stream allowed recorded games allowed. if voobly want he will do stream to. so everything is so clear: even if we win we don t want money we just want to have fun. what s wrong with that. please be fair and forget past
i realy dont understand you. im saying okey he do some bad things. i know everything. but im saying about this tournument dude. he can stream streamers can watch admins can watch and we have recorded games everything realy clear but why u guys hate him. what is wrong i realy dont understand. just be objective in a littleBuzZ_Quiller said:lavie and 8 wonder. just tell me this. stream allowed recorded games allowed. if voobly want he will do stream to. so everything is so clear: even if we win we don t want money we just want to have fun. what s wrong with that. please be fair and forget past
You dont get it. People were nice and forgot his past multiple times, resulting in him even committing worse acts of hacking and cheating then before. Ertug pleading for yet another chance is understandable, as he clearly is incapable of understanding the consequences of his actions, the turkish community acting like he deserves yet another chance is not.
I have a very hard time feeling sorry for ertug because he is not allowed to play in tournaments. Even if he does not cheat people are forced to waste their time analyzing his record thoroughly because his hacks are known to be quite sophisticated, and his opponents are not going to be happy being forced to play against him, as a large part of the community feel like he does not even deserve to play normal games, let along tournament games. Allowing him into the tournament is going to put us all in a very awkward situation.
Voting that situation is already nonsense.The fact that all yes votes are voted by turks make that much more nonsense.Understand now ?[/quote]Uhm are turks "everyone"?
They dont love ertug.They just doesn't care this.They are requested to vote for yes and they vote.You guys are talking about turks voting like all turks were the same person and they all love ertug, which is ridiculous. Only one turkish guy posted in this thread supporting the decision that ertug should join, and the other guys who supported this decision weren't turkish.
Also saying "people don't change" comes from people without hope in humankind, which is awful.
Anyways, maybe the staff should make this decision by themselves, since it's not like they're gonna ask each member of each team for their opinion on this.
They dont love ertug.They just doesn't care this.They are requested to vote for yes and they vote.You guys are talking about turks voting like all turks were the same person and they all love ertug, which is ridiculous. Only one turkish guy posted in this thread supporting the decision that ertug should join, and the other guys who supported this decision weren't turkish.
Also saying "people don't change" comes from people without hope in humankind, which is awful.
Anyways, maybe the staff should make this decision by themselves, since it's not like they're gonna ask each member of each team for their opinion on this.
They dont love ertug.They just doesn't care this.They are requested to vote for yes and they vote.You guys are talking about turks voting like all turks were the same person and they all love ertug, which is ridiculous. Only one turkish guy posted in this thread supporting the decision that ertug should join, and the other guys who supported this decision weren't turkish.
Also saying "people don't change" comes from people without hope in humankind, which is awful.
Anyways, maybe the staff should make this decision by themselves, since it's not like they're gonna ask each member of each team for their opinion on this.
i realy dont understand you. im saying okey he do some bad things. i know everything. but im saying about this tournument dude. he can stream streamers can watch admins can watch and we have recorded games everything realy clear but why u guys hate him. what is wrong i realy dont understand. just be objective in a littleBuzZ_Quiller said:lavie and 8 wonder. just tell me this. stream allowed recorded games allowed. if voobly want he will do stream to. so everything is so clear: even if we win we don t want money we just want to have fun. what s wrong with that. please be fair and forget past
You dont get it. People were nice and forgot his past multiple times, resulting in him even committing worse acts of hacking and cheating then before. Ertug pleading for yet another chance is understandable, as he clearly is incapable of understanding the consequences of his actions, the turkish community acting like he deserves yet another chance is not.
I have a very hard time feeling sorry for ertug because he is not allowed to play in tournaments. Even if he does not cheat people are forced to waste their time analyzing his record thoroughly because his hacks are known to be quite sophisticated, and his opponents are not going to be happy being forced to play against him, as a large part of the community feel like he does not even deserve to play normal games, let along tournament games. Allowing him into the tournament is going to put us all in a very awkward situation.