Probably indefinitely - World's Edge is a microsoft studio, after all.Till when will aoe4 be available on game pass?
This is really understandable.Yeah wasn't really saying that to hate on aoe2 or explain away the drop in aoe4, was just wondering.
It does actually surprise me that the average now is more than at the start, that's a very good thing!
I hope not.Hera will come back to Age 2, period.
I'm monitoring the numbers for the two games regularly. While AoE4 numbers have been constantly dropping, AoE2DE Steam player numbers have been increasing since mid-December till pretty much last week. Then they have started to drop, too. I myself have been wondering why would player numbers continue to increase after the holidays. I am guessing there are also some yearly cycles to this. Periods when the number of players naturally increases or decreases. It is hard to check that as most of DE2 history we have been under some sort of Covid situation.Seems like aoe2 also took a massive hit in player numbers for some reason? Is something going on that people are playing fewer games overall?
This argument is already meaningless since he's already back in terms of Tournaments (back in the sense of participating, not in terms of great performances).After all, he "accomplished everything" in AOE2
i dont think that if in one week the player drop, is mining something. it could be various reasons. we should see a month at least.I'm monitoring the numbers for the two games regularly. While AoE4 numbers have been constantly dropping, AoE2DE Steam player numbers have been increasing since mid-December till pretty much last week. Then they have started to drop, too. I myself have been wondering why would player numbers continue to increase after the holidays. I am guessing there are also some yearly cycles to this. Periods when the number of players naturally increases or decreases. It is hard to check that as most of DE2 history we have been under some sort of Covid situation.
Yet changes to AoE2 DE player numbers (positive or negative) have been fairly slim compared to the "fall" of AoE4. On the other hand, I have to say that since a week or so ago the numbers for both games have been following a similar trend (decreasing with similar figures relative to the player numbers for the two games). This means whatever is causing the decrease in AoE2 DE players currently might be the prime reason to explain a similar trend for AoE4. If this continues for a while or for example both games start gaining players we can mark a point of balance for AoE4 a little below AoE2DE where the initial drop of players after release has ended and we are observing some yearly or other cycles that affect gaming time more. This does not mean AoE4 shall not drop further relative to AoE2 DE, in the long run, but this initial stage may be over.
At the moment it is hard for me to say if this initial period is over or not. Relative to DE2 things look similar in the past week or so, but looking only at AoE4 numbers they follow the old downward trend and it looks like the patches do not have much effect on the number of players. I suspect a few months after ranked seasons and mod support (Spring update) for AoE4 are here we would know where the game is heading in the long run.
Aoe2 being the better game was never in question; the first seconds of aoe4 in game videos removed any doubtI think its not a discusion anymore, AoE 2 is better than AoE 4, period. And more people play Age2 than Age4, period.
Nili made a mistake, period.
Hera will come back to Age 2, period.
Yeah, I mean that was his argument.This argument is already meaningless since he's already back in terms of Tournaments (back in the sense of participating, not in terms of great performances).
So why would anyone pay 60$, when they can get it for far far far less?Probably indefinitely - World's Edge is a microsoft studio, after all.
And let all people that have AMD GPU play the game atleast. And remove this shitty matchmaking system even pros play their highlevel teamgames in lobby - so why fix a broken system that has no use - just remove it and focus on lobby - way easier. (...dreaming of HD times weer 4on4 TG on Megarandom filled in 5 minutes *drooling*)Aoe2 would have a boost if they fixed TG match making, let's just hope we see some changes soon...
I'm monitoring the numbers for the two games regularly.
There are no issue with AMD GPU and the game.And let all people that have AMD GPU play the game atleast. And remove this shitty matchmaking system even pros play their highlevel teamgames in lobby - so why fix a broken system that has no use - just remove it and focus on lobby - way easier. (...dreaming of HD times weer 4on4 TG on Megarandom filled in 5 minutes *drooling*)
It is just my observation of the Steam chart comparison between the two games. There is no other datamining or smth.can you please share the figures, would be nice to look at the numbers. Is it something available publicly?
for you maybe - stop talking like its count for all.... thats exactly the reason why i cant play the game over a year now and alot of others tooThere are no issue with AMD GPU and the game.
Because once the trial runs out, GamePass costs $15 a month, so it is more expensive than just purchasing the game after 4 monthsSo why would anyone pay 60$, when they can get it for far far far less?
Exactly. Gamepass feels very much worth it if you regularly play new games. If you only play a few games or only pick up new games sparingly, it's not worth it.Because once the trial runs out, GamePass costs $15 a month, so it is more expensive than just purchasing the game after 4 months
FYI $14.99 per month is for the "Ultimate" version of GamePass. The PC version is "just" $9.99 per month. This is their plans page. I guess the point of Ultimate would be if you have both a PC and an Xbox. Either way it's still an awful deal if it's used only for Aoe4.Because once the trial runs out, GamePass costs $15 a month, so it is more expensive than just purchasing the game after 4 months
Yeah I somewhat assume that the majority of gamepass users are also Xbox console users given it's relatively recent foray into PCFYI $14.99 per month is for the "Ultimate" version of GamePass. The PC version is "just" $9.99 per month. This is their plans page. I guess the point of Ultimate would be if you have both a PC and an Xbox. Either way it's still an awful deal if it's used only for Aoe4.
There was never "discussion". AoE3 player saying AoE3 is better than AoE2 is as valid as you saying AoE2 is better than AoE4. Player numbers or viewers are not indicator of which game is best, many trash games have more players than any AoE and if numbers are indicator then AoE1 is best AoE.I think its not a discusion anymore, AoE 2 is better than AoE 4, period. And more people play Age2 than Age4, period.
Nili made a mistake, period.
Hera will come back to Age 2, period.
I think that any discussion is over now, we are watching a new Age game that is going to the sink in terms of playerbase and viewers, it made not splash in the gaming environment and it will need a miracle to be relevant "again". The only important discussion now is if MS will support AoE2 tourneys in the mid and long term.There was never "discussion". AoE3 player saying AoE3 is better than AoE2 is as valid as you saying AoE2 is better than AoE4. Player numbers or viewers are not indicator of which game is best, many trash games have more players than any AoE and if numbers are indicator then AoE1 is best AoE.