I have a really good record playing Celts vs Aztecs since i started using them as my main civ. Celts > Aztecs id say.
viewtopic.php?f=209&t=25433&sgexp=25320#G_25320_10the reason why i think aztecs > celts http://www.aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f= ... 17#p134417
Honestly, EWs suck vs franks..I dont think Franks work well.. They have a hard time in feudal and in early castle too. Azt wont make EWs vs Franks. They'd go xbows + monks + mangonel. Turks is also pretty bad imo. They really die to arbs + rams early imp.
I have a really good record playing Celts vs Aztecs since i started using them as my main civ. Celts > Aztecs id say.
I have a really good record playing Celts vs Aztecs since i started using them as my main civ. Celts > Aztecs id say.
But it probable isn´t true. I think this game is played to much to discover that some civs are stronger then most people think at this point. That is why people who stubbornly believe otherwise never get their rate above 2k. I like playing celt myself tho, just as much, or even more then aztec, but I know aztec will have an edge on me if i play an equal player 1v1, because aztec is to fast to ever get any use of celt siege.
The key is not siege, but elite woads. And im sure there are people above 2k+ rate who think Celt > Azt.
http://aoczone.net/viewtopic.php?f=209& ... G_25320_10the reason why i think aztecs > celts viewtopic.php?f=91&t=69289&p=134417#p134417
anyway civ = civ ,only in some cases u can tell civ =/= civ
Honestly, EWs suck vs franks..I dont think Franks work well.. They have a hard time in feudal and in early castle too. Azt wont make EWs vs Franks. They'd go xbows + monks + mangonel. Turks is also pretty bad imo. They really die to arbs + rams early imp.
I dont understand this logic fully.there's a reason why the WCL 1v1 Arabia and Arena is played with Azt and not any other civ -- they are the best 1v1 civ on land
really agree with thisGeneral rule is ,keep aztecs fighting, ur wood bonus will kicks in! Aztec has good eco but not better than celt, if u can keep him fight (I mean at least producing xbows) u can easy keep up with aztec boom ,there is no problem go for 4 TCs+castle and up only one minute later than aztecs. Once u have CAstle in strategically good position cover rest of ur base with woads, if u can get early elite up and ur opponent went for faster up to spam eagles on u u should win.
Jaguars arent a big problem. You just go for his eco (vils, TC) with woads without fighting jags. If hes fully stonewalled, that would slow him down anyway. Meanwhile you add in scorps to kill jags. Celts have a good answer to anything that aztecs make in pretty much every stage of the game.
I dont understand this logic fully.there's a reason why the WCL 1v1 Arabia and Arena is played with Azt and not any other civ -- they are the best 1v1 civ on land
Let us suppose that celt is a counter civ to azt, if player A picks azt and player B picks celt, player A can switch his civ to a counter for celts... so nothing is proved due to experts picking azt only in 1x1 land.
IMO celts and azt are quite matched until imp, thats when things start to turn into celt favour, woads are really fast to make even if they are made from castle, ewoads just own almost anything aztec makes except for jags, which are countered by scorp, and eagle + jag has no chance vs woad + scorp, or later scorp + onager- all this aasuming celt can make enough woads to stop aztec eew spam which i think they can, since celt has also a nice boom that isnt far off from aztecs.
Well things are not so black :D
There are only two real problems I really faced in games against aztecs. FC and very fast imp with eagles raid.
If u can elimintae this threat u are on the way to win.
General rule is ,keep aztecs fighting, ur wood bonus will kicks in! Aztec has good eco but not better than celt, if u can keep him fight (I mean at least producing xbows) u can easy keep up with aztec boom ,there is no problem go for 4 TCs+castle and up only one minute later than aztecs. Once u have CAstle in strategically good position cover rest of ur base with woads, if u can get early elite up and ur opponent went for faster up to spam eagles on u u should win.
But as I said it is all about players. EDIT: ..and sometiems a map :D
True, and this could be why people dont change their civ from aztecs to other civs...if the players keep changing the civs the games would never get started
The point is you need full stonewall + castles to hold Celt. Otherwise, you wont even counter ewoads. Even if you have an equal number of castles as Celt, your jags train too slow compared to woads.Jaguars arent a big problem. You just go for his eco (vils, TC) with woads without fighting jags. If hes fully stonewalled, that would slow him down anyway. Meanwhile you add in scorps to kill jags. Celts have a good answer to anything that aztecs make in pretty much every stage of the game.
yes if he is stone walled he is a little behind but not so much as the guy who made the castle!
...lol no comment
slam > dogao at least in these games
...lol no comment
slam > dogao at least in these games
lol.
celts war ratio : 1-1
azteks vs celts ratio : 2-0
Keep your eyes closed
lmao I can show u many games from Matt where he owned azteks on top level 2k3+ 2k2+ players.. does it prove celt > aztk? by ur logic, yes...lol no comment
slam > dogao at least in these games
lol.
celts war ratio : 1-1
azteks vs celts ratio : 2-0
Keep your eyes closed