Are you completly ******ed or just braindead? Where the **** are you getting this message from him? HE IS LITERALLY SAYING THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED TRASH. And streamers says they are trash. Wtf dude.Na, you can reread his post if you like. It literally doesn't make sense. He is saying camels should be considered part of the "trash" unit combo by including them with the skirms and pikes, just that he wants to rename it a counter-unit combo. When people refer to trash units they are not talking about byz civ bonus, they are just talking about the skirms and pikes. This is why it's a completely irrelevant post.