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It's not just about the civs being OP. It's about their design and fun in general. Indians are just an awfully designed civ. Having a civ that replaces Knights with OP Camels instead was just such an awful idea IMO. Indians are also still unbalanced in team games anyway, their Camels wreck the opposing pocket Knight civ.You can argue a lot about RoR Civs with their battle eles and arambai, but at least vietnamese and Khmer are not OP, and Khmer bring some nice strategy and buildorder aspects, with not needing Buildings for next ages/other buildings. Malay are OP on certain maps ((Pond-)Arena!), and Burmese are broken and a bit unnessecary that is true.
African Kngdoms: Portuguese is kinda unessecary, but surely not a very strong civ. Malians is maybe a bit strong, but very interesting, fun to play and you can defeat them, except with goths mabe 11. Same goes for ethiopians. Berbs feel overpowered, agreed on that.
I dont really understand your problem with Indians - since they have arbalest removed and Halbs murder Camels, they are fine.
Every single Rise of the Rajas civ was just uncreative and unbalanced, except for the Khmer (which are still unbalanced coz they suck in 1v1 but are OP in imperial TG).
Burmese bonuses are just ripoffs of other bonuses/techs; extra attack on infantry is kinda just like a hybrid of Japanese and Aztecs infantry bonuses, with a good effect on early m@a rush like japs, and a bigger effect in imperial like azt. Arambai are just Conquistadors but broken. The Battle Elephant as a unit is just badly designed, it's like a War Elephant mixed with a Paladin which is the most hilariously OP combination you can think of. It's not innovative, it's just boring and unbalanced, and takes away from the speciality of the Persians too.
Malay advancing to the next age faster is not a creative bonus and is just annoying and not fun (both to use and to play against). In feudal it's basically Chinese ripoff, coz you get +2 vills out of it.
Vietnamese are a super lame civ. Seeing enemy TC = bonus used for laming. Extra archer HP = has basically no effect, and its effect is a worse version of other archer bonuses. Rattan Archer = lame version of Plumed Archer. And ofc their elephants are bad compared to the others.
Even the African Kingdoms civilizations, except the Ethiopians and maybe the Malians, aren't fun or innovative to me. Portuguese are just Turks but lame, Malians wood cost reduction is a ripoff of Celts wood bonus and free Gold Mining is ripoff of Turks gold bonus, and Berbers Camel Archer is a stupidly designed unit as its intended design is to counter cav archers which is ******ed because that means it's only useful against Mongols, Huns etc and means it's OP vs those civs but useless vs everything else, however their intended use didn't even happen and instead the unit is just OP against everything which is just as bad design. Also Berber cavalry discount is just Magyars but slightly different, and better in most cases.