I'm still wondering who was the genius behind nerfing mongol's unique strong unit while introducing other 10 OP units at the same time :lol:
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I'm still wondering who was the genius behind nerfing mongol's unique strong unit while introducing other 10 OP units at the same time :lol:
Well, you are the expert, could you elaborate on this? I think they have some weaknesses. Like how do you want to stop eagle warriors with them in (early) Castle Age?Yeah and for that reason a civ is better than the other? 11
Ethiopians are insanely strong in 1v1 arabia.
Mongols are trash now, mangudai sux, camel archer counter pretty much everything and they have cheaper knights with all upgrades (11?), not to mention arambai that is a fuc.king conquistador with almost the same price as a plumed archer.
Those are some great bonuses but they still lost most of their matches in KotD. I just don't get why they didn't win more if they're so good.receive +100food/gold per age (free m@a f.e.), archers fire +15% faster, free pik and HALB... you rly wanna discuss on that civ in 1v1 arab?
Those are some great bonuses but they still lost most of their matches in KotD. I just don't get why they didn't win more if they're so good.receive +100food/gold per age (free m@a f.e.), archers fire +15% faster, free pik and HALB... you rly wanna discuss on that civ in 1v1 arab?
Well, you are the expert, could you elaborate on this? I think they have some weaknesses. Like how do you want to stop eagle warriors with them in (early) Castle Age?[/quote]Mongols are trash now, mangudai sux, camel archer counter pretty much everything and they have cheaper knights with all upgrades (11?), not to mention arambai that is a fuc.king conquistador with almost the same price as a plumed archer.
Well, you are the expert, could you elaborate on this? I think they have some weaknesses. Like how do you want to stop eagle warriors with them in (early) Castle Age?Mongols are trash now, mangudai sux, camel archer counter pretty much everything and they have cheaper knights with all upgrades (11?), not to mention arambai that is a fuc.king conquistador with almost the same price as a plumed archer.
!overeactingSpeedy siege ram and siege Onagers? Lol he has BBC, Camel Archers and cheaper hussar,cavalier,camels and better stable than you. Even better trash war.
lulz good luck microing BBC vs drilled SO
No way Berber weck Mong in POST IMP. Hell I would say it is opposite.
mongols have no chances vs berbers in 1v1
!overeactingSpeedy siege ram and siege Onagers? Lol he has BBC, Camel Archers and cheaper hussar,cavalier,camels and better stable than you. Even better trash war.
lulz good luck microing BBC vs drilled SO
No way Berber weck Mong in POST IMP. Hell I would say it is opposite.
mongols have no chances vs berbers in 1v1
I undrelined and bolded post imp. Meaning I was trying to express that my opinion is solely about post imp talk.
Your rant was about mong being nerfed to point where you can not beat Berbers which I consider wrong. In post imp situation I would bet my money on mongol. Only thing nerfed about mong was removing 0 delay on Mangus.
Other than that, many expansion civs are considered OP hence "Mong having no chance in 1v1 against Berber" is not result of nerfed Mong but rather op Berber. While you will have hard time playing 1v1 Mong vs Berber on open maps, it is not so bad in closed maps and especially not in team games.
Hence my initial "!overreacted".
It is unbelievable but true. Camel archer beat mangudai easily in combat, have more hitpoints and regenerate. Also berber hussar are cheaper and have the armour. Based on this its pretty clear that camel archer + hussar would wreck mangudai hussar.Well in 1v1 it is mostly Mangus/Hussar/SiegeRam. I just wanted to say that I find it unbelievable that Mangus/Hussar/Rams has no chance against Berber.
But you do not fight camelarcher with mangudais. You stay behind ram/hussar. And while hussars are basically equal, mong got superior rams.It is unbelievable but true. Camel archer beat mangudai easily in combat, have more hitpoints and regenerate. Also berber hussar are cheaper and have the armour. Based on this its pretty clear that camel archer + hussar would wreck mangudai hussar.Well in 1v1 it is mostly Mangus/Hussar/SiegeRam. I just wanted to say that I find it unbelievable that Mangus/Hussar/Rams has no chance against Berber.
The only chance mongol have is doing fast siege ram before berber get cavalry to counter it.
do not underestimate the mongol pikeman
I'm still wondering who was the genius behind nerfing mongol's unique strong unit while introducing other 10 OP units at the same time :lol:
I'm still wondering who was the genius behind nerfing mongol's unique strong unit while introducing other 10 OP units at the same time :lol:
I remember two guys in another thread saying that the Xpacs were the heaven of balance.