Announcing the 2021 AoE2 German Championship

I'm happy to bring to you the AoE2 German Championship of 2021 with a € 3.000 prize pool, very generously donated by TeeJay!

Germany has one of the biggest communities, largest pool of high level players, and have been a vital part of the Age of Empires II history, and it's time to crown a Champion, once again.

With many high level players hailing from , it's going to be fascinating to see which 20 players will be involved in the 2021 German Championship. If you miss out this year, we're aiming for this to be a yearly event, so better prepare already for this to come your way in 2022 as well!

The tournament will be a fairly fast paced and efficient tournament, lasting for just 2 weeks, with the top 4 players being secured invites directly to the main event of 8 players, whilst 16 players will compete in a single elimination to determine the remaining 4 spots. As we approach weekend come February 5th, the main event begins with a single elimination bracket of the top 8 players competing to prove that they drink the most beer, wear white tennis socks the highest, consume the most currywurst and play the best Age of Empires II in Germany, to be the winner of the 2021 AoE2 German Championship!

All the information regarding the tournament can be found here.

 

Mia san mia!

 

geil

 

Everything is geil except Arena.
Thanks for organising this and als a big thanks to the sponsor!

 

Vipah went from 'just a caster' to 'just a host' in a few weeks

 

Keep in mind that you have to be German in order to take part in this event. You must be a German Citizen, hold a German Passport and have lived in Germany for the majority of your life.

This is a weirdly exclusive definition of who gets to count as "German." For instance, imagine a 30 year old living in Germany, who has German parents, a German spouse and German kids, and is the president of Germany, but was raised in Austria and didn't move to Germany permanently until they were 16. According to these settings, this person isn't German 11

If the German government has granted someone citizenship that means they consider that person to be German. What business does an Age of Empires tournament organizer have to impose a higher standard?

 

His tournament, his rules, not government rules.

 

This is a weirdly exclusive definition of who gets to count as "German." For instance, imagine a 30 year old living in Germany, who has German parents, a German spouse and German kids, and is the president of Germany, but was raised in Austria and didn't move to Germany permanently until they were 16. According to these settings, this person isn't German 11

If the German government has granted someone citizenship that means they consider that person to be German. What business does an Age of Empires tournament organizer have to impose a higher standard?

Thank you!

 

and is the president of Germany,

Well, no more Austrians as president please. Been there, done that. 0/10.

 

His tournament, his rules, not government rules.

Evidently. That doesn't mean the rules are above question.

 

Does majority mean 50 % of your life with a residence in Germany? How is it controlled? Because I don't have any document anymore that states where I lived previously to my current and last 2 addresses.

 

Thank you for organizing!
Is there any information on the sponsor? Is it an individual or a company?

In order to make it a true German tournament, please find below some detailed questions and nit-picky comments about the rules:

§2 - Seeding and Participation
(...) After sign-ups are closed, the top four highest-rated players on the AoE2 DE 1v1 ladder will be invited to the main event. The next sixteen highest-rated players will compete in a twelve day qualifier to determine the last four spots.

Does this mean that it is only based on current rating or will highest rating be considered as well?

§9 - Restoring
(...) If an Admin is not around at the time of playing and the players cannot agree on a result, continue with the rest of the series and if there are still complains it will be evaluated as soon as possible in order to achieve a fair outcome.(...)

As all maps are the home map of the last game's loser, is there a rule on how to continue the series if no result for a game has been decided? (Who picks the next HM? Loser of the previous map if available, player who was behind in score at the time of the drop, lower seed, ...?)

§11 - Prize Money
(...) All the prize winners will be

I think there's something missing here


I gotta agree that §1 feels a bit too restrictive. Afaik German passports are not up for sale that easily. If someone has German citizenship and has lived in Germany for 10 years, it feels a bit weird that he is excluded if he is older than 20... Besides, there is no reasonable way to control it, so you kinda punish honest players who ask if they are eligible and reward players who just sign up and try to get in.

 

This is a weirdly exclusive definition of who gets to count as "German." For instance, imagine a 30 year old living in Germany, who has German parents, a German spouse and German kids, and is the president of Germany, but was raised in Austria and didn't move to Germany permanently until they were 16. According to these settings, this person isn't German 11

If the German government has granted someone citizenship that means they consider that person to be German. What business does an Age of Empires tournament organizer have to impose a higher standard?

Absolutely open to discussing this if there is a case where someone feels like they should be in, but this rule counts against them. Feel free to message me about your case if this is the scenario. I find it very unlikely though when it's limited to the top german players. It's pretty much just a wording to make sure someone who has a german parent or something that has been raised and lives somewhere else without really any connection to Germany past their parent being eligble.

 

Does majority mean 50 % of your life with a residence in Germany? How is it controlled? Because I don't have any document anymore that states where I lived previously to my current and last 2 addresses.

That rule is absolutely redundant and I don't see how anyone would control that. Furthermore it excludes unprivileged people that are German, like refugees that got their residency and live in Germany for years or decades, that might even have gotten a passport or the so called "Gastarbeit*innen" that came to Germany building it up after WWII who sometimes don't even have a passport 40-50 years after. I don't see any reason for excluding people like that. It seems that German demographics were not included when thinking about the rules (if they were included it's pretty bad either way).

But for sure, as Viper said before, as long as the organizers stay open for discussions for special cases it's good! Just the rule itself doesn't really sound on point.

 

Thank you for organizing!
Is there any information on the sponsor? Is it an individual or a company?

In order to make it a true German tournament, please find below some detailed questions and nit-picky comments about the rules:

Does this mean that it is only based on current rating or will highest rating be considered as well?

As all maps are the home map of the last game's loser, is there a rule on how to continue the series if no result for a game has been decided? (Who picks the next HM? Loser of the previous map if available, player who was behind in score at the time of the drop, lower seed, ...?)

I think there's something missing here


I gotta agree that §1 feels a bit too restrictive. Afaik German passports are not up for sale that easily. If someone has German citizenship and has lived in Germany for 10 years, it feels a bit weird that he is excluded if he is older than 20... Besides, there is no reasonable way to control it, so you kinda punish honest players who ask if they are eligible and reward players who just sign up and try to get in.

The sponsor is the guy who was behind EscapeAOE.

Only current rating will be taken into account.

Since it's limited to top 20, where most of the Germans know each other well, I do expect things to work out. This might bite me in the butt at some point, but I believe it will all be fine and I should be reachable at almost any time, so I don't think we'll have any issues.

Again, limited to pretty much top 20 Germans, so I don't think we will have issues. Parts of these rules are made in mind with the limitations of the player pool as well. Again if anyone feel like they should be in but a very strict rule makes them not eligble, please approach me in private through Discord or AoEZone and we'll look at your case.

And keep in mind I'm just a player, I'm not used to this tournament hosting, but I'm improving in my new career path every day, so be patient with me please.

 

This is a weirdly exclusive definition of who gets to count as "German." For instance, imagine a 30 year old living in Germany, who has German parents, a German spouse and German kids, and is the president of Germany, but was raised in Austria and didn't move to Germany permanently until they were 16. According to these settings, this person isn't German 11

If the German government has granted someone citizenship that means they consider that person to be German. What business does an Age of Empires tournament organizer have to impose a higher standard?

This is peak aoezone: Making up some really random, specific situation just to complain about a rule.

 

This is peak aoezone: Making up some really random, specific situation just to complain about a rule.

It would be lovely if this was peak aoezone, because it is a really reflected and solidary thought. I wish there would be more of this here.

 

I hope viper is working with Debbie on some sneaky strats to dominate this tournament. Can't wait to see the axe throwing thingies.

 

Vipah went from 'just a caster' to 'just a host' in a few weeks

He must hate his German team mates a lot, not leaving them any space Kappa

 

I think the rule is set to exclude Viper from the tournament... otherwise he'll rek other players

the Austrian joke in this thread hits me, at least 9/10

 

Absolutely open to discussing this if there is a case where someone feels like they should be in, but this rule counts against them. Feel free to message me about your case if this is the scenario. I find it very unlikely though when it's limited to the top german players. It's pretty much just a wording to make sure someone who has a german parent or something that has been raised and lives somewhere else without really any connection to Germany past their parent being eligble.

I was just sticking my nose in, I'm a New Zealander living in the US 11. Sorry to have turned this announcement into a drama thread, the tournament sounds fun. Thanks for the response and good luck!

 

they drink the most beer (we all know thats mee), wear white tennis socks the highest, consume the most currywurst.

I tick all off the above boxes if you include the german borders in 1944 I'm germans aswell. GL with the tournament looking forward to it.

kind regards Ide(l)fix

 

That rule is absolutely redundant and I don't see how anyone would control that. Furthermore it excludes unprivileged people that are German, like refugees that got their residency and live in Germany for years or decades, that might even have gotten a passport or the so called "Gastarbeit*innen" that came to Germany building it up after WWII who sometimes don't even have a passport 40-50 years after. I don't see any reason for excluding people like that. It seems that German demographics were not included when thinking about the rules (if they were included it's pretty bad either way).

 

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care to explain?

 

This is peak aoezone: Making up some really random, specific situation just to complain about a rule.

It may be peak aoezone but it is also what you should expect and demand when it comes to the German Championship. Give us rules, give us definitions, give us complaining, that's gotta be the spirit of the tournament!

Looking forward!!