Hi, I* just want to try to show from my point of view, how unfair this situation came to be, and how the rules have to be change to be clear or atleast have penalty points to teams that don't follow the rules correctly and take clear advantage of them.
Even if i hope it should, I don't know if this will change this situation, but atleast what i try to express and the comments of other people can make, might help to future decisions of the admins.
What i try to prove is how Norway, who didn't follow the rules correctly, got a lot of adventage, and Argentina A and other teams in the group, that followed the rules correctly, had disvantage and were punished, when they rewarded the team that made things not well.
The fact that Norway played almost all the games in the last few days with extra time given become so unfair because:
1) They pushed all the others team to play in bad and hurried times with not their full team, and even pushed most of teams to play 3vs3 all maps (even sy map and ara that are setted to be played 4vs4 with no other chance). Only them knew that the Taff Message** at schedule topic was false and they would have more time to play even if they were who didn't follow the rules correctly.
The power of chosing to play 3vs3 and 4vs4 in maps you cant, or just force the rival to play 3vs3 changes a lot in the game and impact directly in the result, specially with some team rosters that its know that play better with 4 players. For example, Magnata today wasn't able to play, and he is one of the strongers players of Brazil C.
2) They have all the information of the other results before play. (This changes a lot to me. For example, vs Norway, i had to play in really bad conditions, i almost couldn't play*** and we let fedex go and make another activity because we didn't know it was gonna be a decisive match. We felt it was our last chance because they said they couldn't play other time and Taff message** in the schedule topic was clear but false and they ended having advantage of it. If we would know we could have played monday, we would have done it with our full roster, but then, we were punished by follow the rules correctly )
3) This information they have also impacts in the game directly. They could see all the teams playing competitive games before they played vs them, but almost no team could watch them playing atleast two sets before. So others team are not able to know their players, the way of playing, and all other information you can have when you watch them playing competitive games before.
4)I won't point it out with emphasis the trouble they had with us with the restart game. But all i know is again we were following the rules (I accept personally that 1 second and the situation was very arguable) and they were not.
Of course i understand that schedule sometimes is hard and we have problems. We all have. But not at this level. One or two problems and delays and re schedule i think are ok. But when you delay all your matches and then you get extra time even when it was extremly forbidden by rules and by Admin post in all schedules topics** I consider it very very unfair for all the others teams and not serious, and i really think that desereves penalty points as punishment.
From my point of view they broke several rules**** and they were rewarded, when in the other hand, all the other teams that didn't break the rules were punished.
I also know i can be wrong with something, so feel free of tell me what you think, but please try to make it clear and organizes so we can discuss and make a good conclusion.
*I make this post representing myself, not my team. I really don't know exactly what my team thinks. This is personal.
**UPDATE: A reminder to all Nations that the Group Stage must end on Sunday 16th August. There will be no extensions. Games that remain un played will become admin decisions. So please all nations ensure you complete your matches. Thanks and good luck
***This i will just make clear because i laugh of Spaden post in the other topic about the restart issue when he made a wrong conclusion of why i didn't talk in game in that circumstance. Well, wasn't because i was ashamed, even if i personally think that they did bad and we did bad too in that incident, i didn't talk because i was playing with my 1 year old nephew on my legs that came to my house and when i wasn't in game i just went to play with her. I would have tryed to avoid these circumstanses to play focused and well but again, i didn't have all the information to know that was so important to delay the match and i didn't count for extra day to play too, so i find myself pushed to play at that time under any circumstances. match and dont play in those conditions.
****I count as a rule the fact that maps should be played exactly how rules say (3vs3, 4vs4, let the other team chose) and all the scheduling commitment and times.
Even if i hope it should, I don't know if this will change this situation, but atleast what i try to express and the comments of other people can make, might help to future decisions of the admins.
What i try to prove is how Norway, who didn't follow the rules correctly, got a lot of adventage, and Argentina A and other teams in the group, that followed the rules correctly, had disvantage and were punished, when they rewarded the team that made things not well.
The fact that Norway played almost all the games in the last few days with extra time given become so unfair because:
1) They pushed all the others team to play in bad and hurried times with not their full team, and even pushed most of teams to play 3vs3 all maps (even sy map and ara that are setted to be played 4vs4 with no other chance). Only them knew that the Taff Message** at schedule topic was false and they would have more time to play even if they were who didn't follow the rules correctly.
The power of chosing to play 3vs3 and 4vs4 in maps you cant, or just force the rival to play 3vs3 changes a lot in the game and impact directly in the result, specially with some team rosters that its know that play better with 4 players. For example, Magnata today wasn't able to play, and he is one of the strongers players of Brazil C.
2) They have all the information of the other results before play. (This changes a lot to me. For example, vs Norway, i had to play in really bad conditions, i almost couldn't play*** and we let fedex go and make another activity because we didn't know it was gonna be a decisive match. We felt it was our last chance because they said they couldn't play other time and Taff message** in the schedule topic was clear but false and they ended having advantage of it. If we would know we could have played monday, we would have done it with our full roster, but then, we were punished by follow the rules correctly )
3) This information they have also impacts in the game directly. They could see all the teams playing competitive games before they played vs them, but almost no team could watch them playing atleast two sets before. So others team are not able to know their players, the way of playing, and all other information you can have when you watch them playing competitive games before.
4)I won't point it out with emphasis the trouble they had with us with the restart game. But all i know is again we were following the rules (I accept personally that 1 second and the situation was very arguable) and they were not.
Of course i understand that schedule sometimes is hard and we have problems. We all have. But not at this level. One or two problems and delays and re schedule i think are ok. But when you delay all your matches and then you get extra time even when it was extremly forbidden by rules and by Admin post in all schedules topics** I consider it very very unfair for all the others teams and not serious, and i really think that desereves penalty points as punishment.
From my point of view they broke several rules**** and they were rewarded, when in the other hand, all the other teams that didn't break the rules were punished.
I also know i can be wrong with something, so feel free of tell me what you think, but please try to make it clear and organizes so we can discuss and make a good conclusion.
*I make this post representing myself, not my team. I really don't know exactly what my team thinks. This is personal.
**UPDATE: A reminder to all Nations that the Group Stage must end on Sunday 16th August. There will be no extensions. Games that remain un played will become admin decisions. So please all nations ensure you complete your matches. Thanks and good luck
***This i will just make clear because i laugh of Spaden post in the other topic about the restart issue when he made a wrong conclusion of why i didn't talk in game in that circumstance. Well, wasn't because i was ashamed, even if i personally think that they did bad and we did bad too in that incident, i didn't talk because i was playing with my 1 year old nephew on my legs that came to my house and when i wasn't in game i just went to play with her. I would have tryed to avoid these circumstanses to play focused and well but again, i didn't have all the information to know that was so important to delay the match and i didn't count for extra day to play too, so i find myself pushed to play at that time under any circumstances. match and dont play in those conditions.
****I count as a rule the fact that maps should be played exactly how rules say (3vs3, 4vs4, let the other team chose) and all the scheduling commitment and times.