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AOE-II 1600 Game China vs Huns WK

  • Thread starter United Statesguitarizt
  • Start date Mar 30, 2018
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United Statesguitarizt

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  • Mar 30, 2018
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During game I was surprised he was able to eco and pressure so much. I felt like I couldn't pressure back. The only thing I can think of is going more monk heavy?
 

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  • General Achievements Advancing Chat Researches

    • Version: AOC UP1.5
      Game mod: Wololo Kingdoms
      Duration: 00:40:49
      Avg. rating: N/A
      Map: Arabia
      View of: _Catastrophe
      Click on the map to enlarge
      Team 1
      Tongo
      Huns
      Team 2
      _Catastrophe
      Chinese
    • Overall Military Economy Technology Society

      •   Military Economy Technology Society Total
        Tongo 1787 2755 2005 260 6807
        _Catastrophe 1439 3152 1724 260 6575
      •   Units killed Units lost Buildings razed Buildings lost Converted
        Tongo 74 61 0 1 17
        _Catastrophe 59 91 1 0 1
      •   Food Wood Stone Gold Trade Tributes
        Tongo 13519 9741 2181 7105 0 0/0
        _Catastrophe 14996 13302 2342 6901 0 0/0
      •   Feudal Castle Imperial Map expl. Research
        Tongo 00:10:25 00:23:11 00:40:08 76% 21 (15%)
        _Catastrophe 00:09:54 00:22:14 00:41:24 62% 25 (16%)
      •   Wonders Castles Relics Relic gold Vill high
        Tongo 0 2 0 0 101
        _Catastrophe 0 2 0 0 110
    •   Feudal Castle Imperial
      Tongo 00:10:25 00:23:11 00:40:08
      _Catastrophe 00:09:54 00:22:14 00:41:24
    • PREGAME CHAT
      INGAME CHAT
      [00:00:34] <_Catastrophe> 1663
      [00:00:34] <Tongo> 1684
      [00:16:15] <Tongo> ops
      [00:40:45] <_Catastrophe> gg
      [00:40:49] * _Catastrophe resigned
    • Tongo
      _Catastrophe
      Time
    Version:
    AOC UP1.5
    Mod:
    Wololo
    Duration:
    00:40:49
    Avg. Rating:
    N/A
    Map:
    Arabia
    PoV:
    _Catastrophe
    Team 1
    Tongo
    Huns
    Team 2
    _Catastrophe
    Chinese
    Download (213.1 KB)
  • General Achievements Advancing Chat Researches

    • Version: AOC UP1.5
      Game mod: Wololo Kingdoms
      Duration: 00:40:49
      Avg. rating: N/A
      Map: Arabia
      View of: _Catastrophe
      Click on the map to enlarge
      Team 1
      Tongo
      Huns
      Team 2
      _Catastrophe
      Chinese
    • Overall Military Economy Technology Society

      •   Military Economy Technology Society Total
        Tongo 1787 2755 2005 260 6807
        _Catastrophe 1439 3152 1724 260 6575
      •   Units killed Units lost Buildings razed Buildings lost Converted
        Tongo 74 61 0 1 17
        _Catastrophe 59 91 1 0 1
      •   Food Wood Stone Gold Trade Tributes
        Tongo 13519 9741 2181 7105 0 0/0
        _Catastrophe 14996 13302 2342 6901 0 0/0
      •   Feudal Castle Imperial Map expl. Research
        Tongo 00:10:25 00:23:11 00:40:08 76% 21 (15%)
        _Catastrophe 00:09:54 00:22:14 00:41:24 62% 25 (16%)
      •   Wonders Castles Relics Relic gold Vill high
        Tongo 0 2 0 0 101
        _Catastrophe 0 2 0 0 110
    •   Feudal Castle Imperial
      Tongo 00:10:25 00:23:11 00:40:08
      _Catastrophe 00:09:54 00:22:14 00:41:24
    • PREGAME CHAT
      INGAME CHAT
      [00:00:34] <_Catastrophe> 1663
      [00:00:34] <Tongo> 1684
      [00:16:15] <Tongo> ops
      [00:40:45] <_Catastrophe> gg
      [00:40:49] * _Catastrophe resigned
    • Tongo
      _Catastrophe
      Time
    Version:
    AOC UP1.5
    Mod:
    Wololo
    Duration:
    00:40:49
    Avg. Rating:
    N/A
    Map:
    Arabia
    PoV:
    _Catastrophe
    Team 1
    Tongo
    Huns
    Team 2
    _Catastrophe
    Chinese
    Download (1.7 MB)
IamJeo

FinlandIamJeo

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  • Mar 31, 2018
  • #2
Him "pressuring" you was mostly due your inactivity, of sitting inside your base (granted, on an important hill) despite having camels vs his kts, a completely positional advantage for the enemy that You freely gave him by not making any useful army. The pressure you felt had very little to do with economy or military advantage for one or the other in early castle age. At 32-33mins you both reach 100pop nigh simultaneously, him having Upped to 3 TC booming with just a few moments later than you, resulting in ~5-8 villager difference to your favor: a negligible amount.

Your economies were at every point, from castle age onwards, almost exactly the same (he had a little bit less wood, but as Huns he saved a bit so there's that).

The problem there was gold control due which you eventually GGed, having lost control of your extra piles. Both of them were Fwd or somewhat far away, so your choice to add 2 TCs and boom was imo very questionable, when you couldn't secure either extra goldpile (the more Fwd one being shadowed by a cliff, inviting a mangonel there).

_____

Before all that ^ you made lots of mistakes though.

  1. GBing the scout form his base before getting a read of what he is doing in Feudal: due scouting-score difference you clearly were afraid of a drush (based on terrible building positioning), which you knew wasn't coming at 9:40 when you checked his main gold, and before that, you seemingly saw hints of 2 LCs, trending thoughts towards a stable war. Well, 10:30 you never checked the front of his base and merrily walked sc back without any notion if there be walls, stable or ranges up. Not nice. What if he FC (back gold, walled?) or something? (which, if were the case, towering his only woodline that had 2 LCs would be nice and it'd still remain a HUGE weakness in his map, one you should have attempted to capitalize on even later, like with xbows.)
  2. While Upping to Castle, no gold-army transition in mind (a majestic 1-3 gold miners without 1st tech while upping :confused:) even though you're clearly expecting Xbow/CA or kts from the Huns player. Bottom line, your map was pretty crap for booming => you need army to keep yourself (gold access) safe, map control, yet you basically prepared to do no army, Arena style. Castle age brings with it a large variety of things to use gold on, and since you didn't know what the opponent was going for, you probably should do strong (=gold-based) army as a precaution. You can boom even with a bad map if you have army advantage: "oh, he has crap or no army, I'll get good gold units like mangonel and kts or a pack of xbows, sit outside his base on a hill or extra resource so he cannot boom well while I boom safely at home myself " should have been Your thinking but you gave it to Tongo instead.
  3. Lots of wasted resources to +2/+1 eskirms and even Uni+Ballistics initially, when facing +1/+2BL kts, without having scouting info on the latter.
  4. Yeah, the monks... total of 17 conversions, only one of which was a spear, rest camels as far as I saw. Ouch. A very sad thing you had no ranges, +2/+1, Uni+ballistics completed by the time you first saw monks in the field, Xbows are known to be such a bad unit vs monks, right? :wink: You also jumped to stone, obviously wanting chukonus in Imperial? So why not go Chi-cheap ThumbRing+Balli xbows vs expected CA/Xbow/KTs of Huns?
 
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