We want both games to succeed... We want Age of Empires to succeed..
No I don't. I just don't want AOE4 effect anything on AOE2, that's it. It can fail and if it doesn't effect Microsoft's perspective on AOE2, I wouldn't mind at all. All I care AOE2.We want both games to succeed... We want Age of Empires to succeed..
I don't care about any streamer really..No I don't. I just don't want AOE4 effect anything on AOE2, that's it. It can fail and if it doesn't effect Microsoft's perspective on AOE2, I wouldn't mind at all. All I care AOE2.
Anyway regular players are coming back, pros are coming back, at least relevant ones. I was a little bit sad that we lost MBL to Warcraft during the process but he is also back although he is not participating to latest tournament. And I really wish that Hera and Vivi fail miserably in all AOE2 tournaments. Nili already got what he deserved, today he was grinding ladder at 400+ place against a user nicknamed fartsniffer.
After 2 months I have a feeling that AOE4 devs have never watched an AOE2 tournament, not even highlights and I guess they are fooled by Daut during development phase. Remember tournaments and all highlights from them: They are about micro, dancing archers, mangonel fights, archer vs mangonel/scorpion fights, quick walls, trapping scouts and man at arms, walling your vills. Can you imagine how boring Hidden Cup would be in AOE4... What a stupidity.
If I had a dollar for each time any aoe 4 sell out streamer mentions the game's potential, I would be able to sponsor next Hidden CupGame lost another 6-7k players during december, by mid february the game might go out from the top 100, i guess we will never find out "the potential" it had lol
He got wrecked in that game btw. Other dude just spammed elephants until nili had no buildings leftNili already got what he deserved, today he was grinding ladder at 400+ place against a user nicknamed fartsniffer.
The tone has shifted though.. now it's more of a mourning for what the game could have been, notn excitement for what it could beIf I had a dollar for each time any aoe 4 sell out streamer mentions the game's potential, I would be able to sponsor next Hidden Cup
denial.
Yeah and partly its because they themself went for aoe4 and now they are divided and half playing there, half team games, half trying to find 1v1. It's just bit funny how they complained about "let us play whatever we want, if you don't like, get lost" now we getting into phase "dam, we want aoe2 again, because our viewer count is dropping, but we have issues finding games now". Who could have thought...That currently the 1v1 matchmaking in AoE2 doesn't give them any incentive to play anymore as there are too less players on their Elo that they could play against with reasonable waiting times.
don't worry; he will have subathon day 20,...100+, whatever it takes to keep the sub numbers high; still pulls in more viewers than most aoe2 communityI hope this image will be permanent after Dave and T90's tournament.
And by permanent I mean Hera is still playing AOE4 also
why did Ninja fail (less popular)I don't understand how a part of the community can talk that bad about Nili and others who moved to AoE4.
He aswell as almost all Pros/Content-Creators moved to AoE4, thinking it would be the next big thing which made completely sense and is the same as back then when evryone moved from Voobly towards Definitive Edition.
This is just not true. Voobly to DE is switching platforms of the same game whereas AoE4 is an entirely new game even if they clearly tried to make it reminiscent of AoE2. Also it did not make much sense to think it would be the next big thing based the number of complaints people had about important things like gameplay, graphics and UX features, the lack of developer responsiveness to this feedback, and the tepid prerelease appraisals by players of other RTS. I agree with not being too mean to them but if they genuinely thought it would be the next big thing they deserve a little bit of criticism and some gentle ribbing.I don't understand how a part of the community can talk that bad about Nili and others who moved to AoE4.
He aswell as almost all Pros/Content-Creators moved to AoE4, thinking it would be the next big thing which made completely sense and is the same as back then when evryone moved from Voobly towards Definitive Edition.
Well some ppl do not care about content, they care about streamer. But I think and aoe4 results kind of shows people do care about content a lot.A wake up call for the clique - their fans are there for the content and not the streamer ; )
denial.
anger.
bargaining.
depression.
acceptance.
We have reached 3rd point. Guess I don't need to keep list of excuses anymore, denial phase is long gone :D
Genesis had about 68k viewers at it's peak, while Steelseries Prime Cup had at least 15k viewers during the finals. The drop-off is still very big of course, but nowhere near as big as you portray it to be.aoe4 : First tier S tournament, 102k viewers. Last tier S tournament, 2k-4k viewers. AGE OF BIG FAIL