I have a question regarding the group stage matches and the posterior bracket, as I been looking at the handbook and is not clear at all.
Couple of thing stated in the handbook:
- If a player wins someone with a better seed, he gets that seed (pg 16, Seeding 2.b)
- The best seeded player always plays against the worst seeded; the second best against the second worst and so on (pg 12)
And another fact that Chrazini confirmed but is not included anywhere in the handbook:
- During the group stage a match cannot be repeated
Finally, we have this image (pg 14)
Just to simplify, as it will be the same for groups A and B, lets look just at group A.
According to the actual seeding and the way to stablish the matches, the opening round will be:
1vs16 ; 4vs13 ; 5vs12 ; 8vs9
If we put names there:
Liereyy vs slam; Mr.Yo vs dogao; DauT vs Nicov; Villese vs TatoH
Next round the winners will inherit the higher seed of their match. So, if slam beats Liereyy, slam will become seed 1 and Liereyy seed 16, ¿right? I am not sure about this point, but that is what is written in the "Seeding" part concerning the main event...
Therefore, we will have the following matches
Winners: 1vs8 ; 4vs5
Losers: 9vs16 ; 12vs13
So if the initially higher seeded win their matches we will have:
Winners: Liereyy vs Villese ; Mr.Yo vs DauT
Losers: TatoH vs slam ; Nicov vs dogao
And in the last round, forcefully the matches should be
Deciders: 8vs9; 5vs12
But, if again the initially higher seeded players win their matches we will have
Villese vs TatoH; DauT vs Nicov
That cannot be because we cannot repeat matches, as Charzini stated, so, how those games will be determined? As 5 cannot match against 12, then will the player face the next possible option, which is 9? (So in the example DauT vs TatoH ; Villese vs Nicov )
But let's not stop there.
In the pag 12 of the handbook is also stated that in case of a tie... [Well I don't fully understand this, because according to the image there are no ties, is clear where each player will go after every round. I will assume that the image has to be wrong and this is referring to the positioning in the final bracket depending on the results of the group stage.] ...in case of a tie, it will be solved first by looking at the direct match-up of the tied players, or in case of not have happened, to the seeding (the initial seeding? The seeding inherit along the groups stage?).
I assume that the first four will be the four players that have won the winners match, separated by group (A1 first, A2 first, B1 first, B2 first), and the order within each group is directly stablished by their seeding, as they could have not faced each other (So if Liereyy wins his two matches, Mr.Yo cannot be A1 first as he has a lower seed).
The other four players, the ones that qualified in the deciders, are also separated by group, and then arranged accordingly the opening match (if they crossed) or the seeding (if they didn't). Is this right?
I mean, I just want to understand how the system works... :/
I don't know if I made my point, but the explanation in the handbook is not very clear and that image is not helping at all!
Thanks!
Couple of thing stated in the handbook:
- If a player wins someone with a better seed, he gets that seed (pg 16, Seeding 2.b)
- The best seeded player always plays against the worst seeded; the second best against the second worst and so on (pg 12)
And another fact that Chrazini confirmed but is not included anywhere in the handbook:
- During the group stage a match cannot be repeated
Finally, we have this image (pg 14)
Just to simplify, as it will be the same for groups A and B, lets look just at group A.
According to the actual seeding and the way to stablish the matches, the opening round will be:
1vs16 ; 4vs13 ; 5vs12 ; 8vs9
If we put names there:
Liereyy vs slam; Mr.Yo vs dogao; DauT vs Nicov; Villese vs TatoH
Next round the winners will inherit the higher seed of their match. So, if slam beats Liereyy, slam will become seed 1 and Liereyy seed 16, ¿right? I am not sure about this point, but that is what is written in the "Seeding" part concerning the main event...
Therefore, we will have the following matches
Winners: 1vs8 ; 4vs5
Losers: 9vs16 ; 12vs13
So if the initially higher seeded win their matches we will have:
Winners: Liereyy vs Villese ; Mr.Yo vs DauT
Losers: TatoH vs slam ; Nicov vs dogao
And in the last round, forcefully the matches should be
Deciders: 8vs9; 5vs12
But, if again the initially higher seeded players win their matches we will have
Villese vs TatoH; DauT vs Nicov
That cannot be because we cannot repeat matches, as Charzini stated, so, how those games will be determined? As 5 cannot match against 12, then will the player face the next possible option, which is 9? (So in the example DauT vs TatoH ; Villese vs Nicov )
But let's not stop there.
In the pag 12 of the handbook is also stated that in case of a tie... [Well I don't fully understand this, because according to the image there are no ties, is clear where each player will go after every round. I will assume that the image has to be wrong and this is referring to the positioning in the final bracket depending on the results of the group stage.] ...in case of a tie, it will be solved first by looking at the direct match-up of the tied players, or in case of not have happened, to the seeding (the initial seeding? The seeding inherit along the groups stage?).
I assume that the first four will be the four players that have won the winners match, separated by group (A1 first, A2 first, B1 first, B2 first), and the order within each group is directly stablished by their seeding, as they could have not faced each other (So if Liereyy wins his two matches, Mr.Yo cannot be A1 first as he has a lower seed).
The other four players, the ones that qualified in the deciders, are also separated by group, and then arranged accordingly the opening match (if they crossed) or the seeding (if they didn't). Is this right?
I mean, I just want to understand how the system works... :/
I don't know if I made my point, but the explanation in the handbook is not very clear and that image is not helping at all!
Thanks!